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The Worst Raped Game Franchise of All Time (Poll)

Which game franchise has been raped the worst?

  • Fallout franchise (Fallout 3 & 4, Fallout 76)

  • The Elder Scrolls franchise (Oblivion, Skyrim)

  • Ultima franchise (Ultima 8 & 9, The Shroud of the Avatar, Underworld Ascendent)

  • XCOM franchise (Interceptor, nuXCOM)

  • Jagged Alliance franchise (Back in Action, JA Online, Flashback, JA: Rage)

  • Baldur's Gate franchise (Beamdog Enhanced Editions)

  • Dragon Age franchise (DA 2, DA:I)

  • Diablo franchise (Diablo 3, Diablo: Immortal)

  • Dungeon Keeper franchise

  • Fable franchise

  • Mass Effect franchise (Mass Effect 3, Andromeda)

  • Battlefield franchise (Battlefield 5)

  • Heroes of Might and Magic franchise (everything after 3, arguably 4)

  • Some other game franchise

  • Grimoire franchise (Kingkomrade)

  • Sonic the Hedhehog franchise

  • Sonic the Hedgehog franchise

  • SimCity franchise

  • Resident Evil franchise

  • DOOM franchise

  • Warhammer franchise

  • Command & Conquer franchise

  • Final Fantasy franchise

  • Wizardry franchise

  • The Settlers franchise

  • Metal Gear franchise

  • Civilization franchise

  • Tom Clancy franchise

  • Total War franchise

  • Tomb Raider franchise

  • Warcraft franchise

  • Syndicate franchise


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ZeniBot

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Sonic as well, the decline keeps on going. At least with the other franchises they tended to stop after 2 or 3 bad games. Sonic just keeps going.

Most depressing though is Fallout, Jagged Alliance, Sim City, The Sims and Total War.
Ultima had a long history of amazing games so the rape doesn't hurt as bad.
 

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Thief still stings... but it is Ultima all the way. As Morality Games wrote, Ultima was really a by-word for quality. Every Ultima game brought something new to the table, and every Ultima game was meticulously polished to perfection. I can even forgive them the lame RenFaire setting and self-inserts, because the games were so damn good. Ultima was the CRPG gold standard. And it was not a one-off - it was an epic series, game after game after game building on the same basic themes while trying new things and exploring new opportunities. Even the side games like Savage Empires were excellent. Their manuals were entertaining to red on their own. They had great boxed sets and cloth maps and supplemental materials, too.

Then the fuckers raped it, and raped it hard because it made money, but they thought it could make even more money. And when that didn't work out, they killed it and burned the corpse.

That was Ultima.
Nigga please.

Ultima had exactly ONE shit 3d game.

If there was an Ultima game where you start off by pouring petrol into your hovering robot, survive the nuclear apocalypse, get instantly rewarded with the best armor and fucking build bases all over town, Ultima MIGHT be in the same ballpark as the rape committed upon Fallout.
 

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Fallout hands down. Not only was the franchise raped by releasing games that betrayed the original style and mechanics, some were truly bad. Additionally its fanbase went from normal people to a vast array of horrible degenerates. Of all the franchise mentioned only Sonic had a similar fate.
 

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I think the reason Fallout doesn't seem as bad is Ultima to me is that there was a 10 year gap between a good game and a different developer producing shit. Also FO3 gave us New Vegas which isn't as good as FO1/2 but isn't terrible either. With Ultima the decline involved the same developers and was so sudden and drastic that I still don't understand what happened (besides EA of course).
 

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Fallout has objectively been raped the worst.
TES has become worse over the years, but they were never extraordinarily great games
DA was never better than mediocre.
Utlima I haven't played enough of, especially not of U8&9.
Anyone claiming the EEs of BG are raping the franchise is overreacting worse than a teenage girl who can't find a date before a dance. Are they objectively bad "enhanced editions"? Of course, they don't add in anything that is worth the asking price on top of the OE's cost. However, most of the added material CAN be avoided and one can play most of it like a TuTu or BGT install on BG1, and it will be really familiar in that sense, and not add in much that changes the style of the game.
 

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I think the reason Fallout doesn't seem as bad is Ultima to me is that there was a 10 year gap between a good game and a different developer producing shit. Also FO3 gave us New Vegas which isn't as good as FO1/2 but isn't terrible either. With Ultima the decline involved the same developers and was so sudden and drastic that I still don't understand what happened (besides EA of course).
What is there to understand? "EA" basically explains everything.

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I'm happy to see that the constant abusive rape of Jagged Alliance franchise still gets some sympathy among the Enlightened. The original JA was a polished masterpiece that surpassed the original XCOM in every way imaginable. JA2 is still considered the greatest Squad-Based Tactics Game of All Time. Ever since those days of glory JA fans have been served PS1 quality 3D models, RTwP combat and the most horrifying Russian back alley voice acting human ears have ever been tortured with. For a moment I thought the Codex had gone too casual and mainstream to appreciate such an old and rather obscure tale. However the silent observers still remember and occasionally surface themselves when the time is right.

Jagged Alliance, your suffering will not be forgotten!
 
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Fedora Master

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Shit these are all good picks but I think no other franchise was so carelessly and callously murdered and its rotten corpse paraded around as Fallout.
 

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Usually I'm not too worked up about the continued rape of these once great games - taking the opinion that the old ones aren't going anywhere and if we weren't going to get good games anyway, who cares if shit ones get churned out?

But seeing them all lined up like that - holy moly that's depressing.

Of course Fallout is going to 'win' though, the gulf between best and worst iterations (regardless of which pairing you think this is) can't really be surpassed. And besides it's the only one which has its rape depicted in an offical codex smilie.

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The right answer is Ultima.

Fallout rape is not that bad, because Bethesda is not a real author of the franchise. The whole situation is akin to a step-father raping his step-daughter. Disgusting, but rather trivial.

On the other hand, Ultima rape is a moral disaster, as in this case the poor daughter is raped by her own father, namely by Richard Garriott.
 

Jason Liang

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Shit these are all good picks but I think no other franchise was so carelessly and callously murdered and its rotten corpse paraded around as Fallout.
But with the village bicycle/ urinal, it's less a case of rape and more like a mercy fuck
 

Cael

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So what about Star Control?

(sorry Wardell!)
He wasn't responsible for SC 3.
He is responsible for something worse: A GalCiv spin off posing as a SC game. Have you seen the ships? GalCiv mockups.
Never touched CalCiv.
It has a very good ship builder where you can customise your own ship not only in loadout, but what you want the ship to look like. It is basically LEGO style with fixed blocks and you can put together into some pretty good looking ships.

Some examples:
Gal-Civ-Ship-Defiant.png

Gal-Civ-Ship-Nebula.png

Gal-Civ-Ship-Ambassador.png

Yes, it takes a bit of effort to get it to align right and stuff like that, and knowing how to shrink or enlarge components to give you the right look is key, but you can do some pretty good stuff with some of the WTF component shapes it has.


Of course, Wardell had to fuck it all up by making GalCiv into an extremely badly done Loony Toons style "humour" in GalCiv3. Guy is as bad as EA when it come to killing franchises.
 

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So what about Star Control?

(sorry Wardell!)
He wasn't responsible for SC 3.
He is responsible for something worse: A GalCiv spin off posing as a SC game. Have you seen the ships? GalCiv mockups.
Never touched CalCiv.
It has a very good ship builder where you can customise your own ship not only in loadout, but what you want the ship to look like. It is basically LEGO style with fixed blocks and you can put together into some pretty good looking ships.

Some examples:
Gal-Civ-Ship-Defiant.png

Gal-Civ-Ship-Nebula.png

Gal-Civ-Ship-Ambassador.png

Yes, it takes a bit of effort to get it to align right and stuff like that, and knowing how to shrink or enlarge components to give you the right look is key, but you can do some pretty good stuff with some of the WTF component shapes it has.


Of course, Wardell had to fuck it all up by making GalCiv into an extremely badly done Loony Toons style "humour" in GalCiv3. Guy is as bad as EA when it come to killing franchises.
How that is worse than SC 3?
 

ColonelTeacup

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People do not seem to appreciate how horribly fallout was abused.
For starters, bethesda took a series that was about rampant capitalistic greed mixed in with fascist government control with the leadup to another great war, and then put a 50s sheen on the whole thing. The game by its nature was a critique of american consumerism and the 50s overlayed by the 50s aesthetic and a worsening world conditions. Bethesda took this type of series and then made fallout a posterboy for its store, a mainline attraction, with bobbleheads, posters, fake power armored helmets, fake pip-boys, etc. The exact thing that the original fallouts had stood against. Bethesda is using fallout as the type of marketing gimmick that fallout appeared to be against. Now, if that wasn't enough, they also glorified the american patriotism, whereas in the originals america was not something to be proud of. They had long ago become despotic, going so far as to annex canada, and enforce totalitarian rule on its peoples. And in most bethesda iterations of fallout there are pro-capitalist messages like with liberty prime, or the protagonist in fallout 4. They've also reduced the opening monologue in fallout about war never changing into a meme.

Additionally, fallout was about exploring the ethics of a post nuclear world and the types of peoples and situations this would create, and bethesda decides to make vampires(?), a completely nonsensical enclave led by a retarded robot, dumber than prim slimm himself, and a town of children that have existed for centuries? Then they proceed to reduce the amount of people and situations exploring this concept to the point of fallout 76, where it is nonexistant and you simply fight bat-dragons with your friends at 12 fps, cause apparently bethesda can't optimize the engine they've been using for like 30 fucking years.

Then there's the absolute lore-rape. Not only is jet in vaults before it was ever created by myron, but it's also states away. And logged in computers terminals, so it wasn't an accidental feature of randomized loot, but a thought out decision. There's the decision in fallout 76 to put the brotherhood of steel on the other side of the continent barely after the bombs fell, despite still making their trek westward to safety, completely destroying canon. There's super mutants in almost every state now with apparently every secret organization creating the fev, not just the master. There's super mutants apparently even before the time of the master in fallout 76, someway, somehow. And if destroying the lore of the previous fallouts so thoroughly wasn't enough, they even break the lore of their own games as well. Like how you spend an entire plot and game needing a geck to fix the water purifier, despite it being the easiest thing to do in fallout 4, with two paperclips, some toilet paper, and a pencil.

The only saving grace of bethesda being the one doing the raping is they seem to be so inept at doing absolutely anything nowadays, from making an rpg, to fulfilling customer obligations, to fucking managing their own website and not leaking peoples credit card information, that they are also inept at abusing fallout. But, like a drunken, raping, idiot piece of trash, determined to get into fallouts panties, over time they've managed to do significant amounts of damage due to sheer greed, malice, and stupidity.
 
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Cael

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So what about Star Control?

(sorry Wardell!)
He wasn't responsible for SC 3.
He is responsible for something worse: A GalCiv spin off posing as a SC game. Have you seen the ships? GalCiv mockups.
Never touched CalCiv.
It has a very good ship builder where you can customise your own ship not only in loadout, but what you want the ship to look like. It is basically LEGO style with fixed blocks and you can put together into some pretty good looking ships.

Some examples:
Gal-Civ-Ship-Defiant.png

Gal-Civ-Ship-Nebula.png

Gal-Civ-Ship-Ambassador.png

Yes, it takes a bit of effort to get it to align right and stuff like that, and knowing how to shrink or enlarge components to give you the right look is key, but you can do some pretty good stuff with some of the WTF component shapes it has.


Of course, Wardell had to fuck it all up by making GalCiv into an extremely badly done Loony Toons style "humour" in GalCiv3. Guy is as bad as EA when it come to killing franchises.
How that is worse than SC 3?

SC3 at least tied into SC2. It was rubbish from a gameplay point of view and all that, and rightly so. But at least it didn't just wipe the board and yell, "Alternate universe!" and basically ignored everything that went on in the previous installations of the franchise, one of the more eregious being that humans became spaceborne without a Chenjesu uplift.
 

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