Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Roguey]

If one god is real than why isn't it around doing things.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

This is extremely inaccurate

Except being an Evoker and casting overpowered Meteor Showers and Missile Salvos, which class has good enough lvl8 and 9 abilities to be worth the trade-off?

Most of them are worth it for two reasons.

#1 you reach the power level 5/6/7 "break point" that has the CORE class abilities earlier and at the game's biggest difficulty spike, which is levels 9-13, and that helps you get power much earlier

#2 most of the classes have lvl 9 abilities that are absolutely superb. Monk and Barbarian and Fighter and Rogue and Priest off the top of my head are great. Ranger is the only one off the top of my head that has shit lvl 9s

All the dual classes range from extremely balanced because Sawyer to completely garbage

Yup. That's in addition that single class abilities are significantly better than the same multi-class abilities due to those Power Level mechanics.

 

[Urthor]

I mean I haven't checked patch notes on the lvl 8/9 abilities for about 5 months but it seemed like none of the really good ones were getting the nerf and are at a similar level of power to release.

There literally isn't a single super powergamey dual class really, the only ones that come close are the dual fighter ones, and pure Barbarian/Fighter/Cipher is just as good in many ways.

The only really good dual classes are the ones Obsidian intentionally left un-nerfed, dual cipher and dual fighter. Rest got slammed in beta

In terms of power levels it sort of matters less because you can usually hit the might cap super lategame if you stack enough top tier loot so in the end dual class is more than equally good.

 

[aweigh]

isn't the fact that the magic missile spells are indisputably the be-all end-alls of the wizard class a rather bleak indictment on the subpar qualities of PoE's magical systems? i think so.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

isn't the fact that the magic missile spells are indisputably the be-all end-alls of the wizard class a rather bleak indictment on the subpar qualities of PoE's magical systems? i think so.

I'd say it's a very good ystem where low level spells are still be relevant instead of just wasting space on your hotbar.

 

[Yosharian]

When do you select the Challenges? I made a character last night but I think I missed that part

 

[Ulfhednar]

When do you select the Challenges? I made a character last night but I think I missed that part

On the main menu - click on the skull at the bottom of the panel before selecting "new game".

 

[Yosharian]

When do you select the Challenges? I made a character last night but I think I missed that part

On the main menu - click on the skull at the bottom of the panel before selecting "new game".

omfg

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Is there a list of the "bestest" spells for wizards and priests?

Basically

1. Minoletta's Minor Missiles
2. Concelhaut's Draining Missiles (Minoletta's Minor Missiles Remix)
3. no good spells on this level, ignore
   
4. Minoletta's Concussive Missiles
5. no good spells on this level, ignore
   
6. Minoletta's Precisely Piercing Burst
7. no good spells on this level, ignore
   
8. Minoletta's Piercing Sigil
9. Minoletta's Missile Salvo

Can confirm. Played a wizard, Minnesota missile is the answer to every question in PoE2. Josh balanced magic down from overpowered buffs/debuffs/crowd control into it's purest and most balanced form: a glowing ball of indeterminate energy that hits you for damage.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Full tank Fighter/Wizard is also pretty great, and Illusionist with +Illusion power levels from items debuffs like mad. Wizards are pretty versatile this time.

 

[Tenebris]

The final dlc is definitely a solid experience. If only they made the base game just as good. If they do make a third game I hope they have it take place in Yezuha.

 

[2house2fly]

So, ESh was correct.



This makes it even better, lol. What a colossal clusterfuck their writing has become.

this isn't their writing. It's something safav harmon, noted insane freak, claims they considered writing at some point

 

[2house2fly]

Maybe the writing in PoE isn't so bad after all, if you consider a story idea that was scrapped(if it was ever even considered at all) even worth mentioning

 

[Immortal]

Is there a list of the "bestest" spells for wizards and priests?

Basically

1. Minoletta's Minor Missiles
2. Concelhaut's Draining Missiles (Minoletta's Minor Missiles Remix)
3. no good spells on this level, ignore
   
4. Minoletta's Concussive Missiles
5. no good spells on this level, ignore
   
6. Minoletta's Precisely Piercing Burst
7. no good spells on this level, ignore
   
8. Minoletta's Piercing Sigil
9. Minoletta's Missile Salvo

Can confirm. Played a wizard, Minnesota missile is the answer to every question in PoE2. Josh balanced magic down from overpowered buffs/debuffs/crowd control into it's purest and most balanced form: a glowing ball of indeterminate energy that hits you for damage.

To be fair.. Chill Fog is pretty top shelf for a level 1 spell.. There are a few others as well.. but yea this game doesn't scale well.. Level Nine Minoletta's just fucking rapes everything.. especially when paired with a few other things..

POTD is extremely hard / fun for the first island.. then becomes a complete cakewalk because of how broken some of the abilities and spells are..

 

[LizardWizard]

Is there a list of the "bestest" spells for wizards and priests?

Basically

7. no good spells on this level, ignore

Concelhaut's Crushing Doom

 

[Yosharian]

To be fair.. Chill Fog is pretty top shelf for a level 1 spell.. There are a few others as well.. but yea this game doesn't scale well.. Level Nine Minoletta's just fucking rapes everything.. especially when paired with a few other things..

What about megaboss battles? Apparently, if you don't have a Cipher, you run out resources

I want to run a single-class Evoker in my party, but I'm considering replacing him with a single-class Cipher instead for more sustainability in longer battles.

What do you think? It'll be the first time I ever run a single-class Wizard like this, so I don't know how it performs lategame in those prolonged boss battles

 

[Ulfhednar]

What about megaboss battles? Apparently, if you don't have a Cipher, you run out resources

I want to run a single-class Evoker in my party, but I'm considering replacing him with a single-class Cipher instead for more sustainability in longer battles.

What do you think? It'll be the first time I ever run a single-class Wizard like this, so I don't know how it performs lategame in those prolonged boss battles

Certain technical builds will make the megaboss battles much easier - you may just want to hire mercenaries for them and play the rest of the game with characters/builds you enjoy.

 

[Yosharian]

What about megaboss battles? Apparently, if you don't have a Cipher, you run out resources

I want to run a single-class Evoker in my party, but I'm considering replacing him with a single-class Cipher instead for more sustainability in longer battles.

What do you think? It'll be the first time I ever run a single-class Wizard like this, so I don't know how it performs lategame in those prolonged boss battles

Certain technical builds will make the megaboss battles much easier - you may just want to hire mercenaries for them and play the rest of the game with characters/builds you enjoy.

Ah that's a good point, I hadn't thought of that. Alright, Evoker it is!

 

[Haplo]

#2 most of the classes have lvl 9 abilities that are absolutely superb. Monk and Barbarian and Fighter and Rogue and Priest off the top of my head are great. Ranger is the only one off the top of my head that has shit lvl 9s

Monk and Barbarian? YES!
Priest? Nope (level 8 are decent though).
Rogue? Gambit is kinda cool, but doesn't nearly compensate for HUGE potential wasted by not multi-classing
Fighter? Are you kidding....?

Ranger? So finally he becomes a pretty decent aoe meleer with Whirling Strikes, gets Twinned and stunning shots... and that's... shit?

 

[Urthor]

yeah wow the fighter's are shit, I think I thought clear out was a lvl 8 or something

Wizard gets wall of many colours though the best spell ever, and Chanter gets His Heart Did Fill With the Light of the Dawn which is amazing for super bosses.

Cipher can go either way.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

They were planning to do a Sheogorath/Jygallag type situation, where Wael was created to conceal the existence of another god that existed before the Engwithans.

Do you have any receipts for this tho sis?

 

[Haplo]

yeah wow the fighter's are shit, I think I thought clear out was a lvl 8 or something

Wizard gets wall of many colours though the best spell ever, and Chanter gets His Heart Did Fill With the Light of the Dawn which is amazing for super bosses.

Cipher can go either way.

Cipher can go either way mostly for earlier access to critical mid-game powers, which otherwise are late-game, plus higher power level. The final ones are not that awesome. The passives are nice though.

Wizard is great pure, certainly. Though he is also great MC material.

Chanters gets upgraded Eld Nary's tornado swarms, which are supposedly great (not that I ever played a pure Chanter).

 

[Parabalus]

To be fair.. Chill Fog is pretty top shelf for a level 1 spell.. There are a few others as well.. but yea this game doesn't scale well.. Level Nine Minoletta's just fucking rapes everything.. especially when paired with a few other things..

What about megaboss battles? Apparently, if you don't have a Cipher, you run out resources

I want to run a single-class Evoker in my party, but I'm considering replacing him with a single-class Cipher instead for more sustainability in longer battles.

What do you think? It'll be the first time I ever run a single-class Wizard like this, so I don't know how it performs lategame in those prolonged boss battles

If you want something completely broken it's Cipher for Brilliant combined with Priest for Salvation of Time, both can be Multi if you're lvl 20.

Though for the megabosses Cipher seems pretty mandatory in a 'normal' party, they're long as fuck.

yeah wow the fighter's are shit, I think I thought clear out was a lvl 8 or something

Wizard gets wall of many colours though the best spell ever, and Chanter gets His Heart Did Fill With the Light of the Dawn which is amazing for super bosses.

Cipher can go either way.

Cipher can go either way mostly for earlier access to critical mid-game powers, which otherwise are late-game, plus higher power level. The final ones are not that awesome. The passives are nice though.

Wizard is great pure, certainly. Though he is also great MC material.

Chanters gets upgraded Eld Nary's tornado swarms, which are supposedly great (not that I ever played a pure Chanter).

The cipher level 8-9 ones aren't that interesting, maybe the +PEN one. You get the lower levels earlier which is great.

 

[Jenkem]

So is the final DLC good or shit?

I'll probably play it regardless just to be done with it..

 

[Jenkem]

also the pillows series is officially done.. no way microsoft funds more of this shit.