himmy
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I literally haven't played any of the games or expansions from that list. My backlog is huge and I couldn't be bothered to even pirate any of them and check them out for a few hours.
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Community RPG Codex's 2018 GOTY - VOTE NOW!
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DJOGamer PT
Arcane
Well the new AC game has skills, quests, "dungeons", leveled lists, a crime system and even C&C. So technically it is an ARPG.
Aemar
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Pathfinder: Kingmaker all the way
fantadomat
Arcane
He is going away because mods decided to unfairly retardo his thread.
Here is his farewell if you haven't seen it.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/last-post-on-the-codex.125670/
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Of the games in the poll, I own the following:
BattleTech - Not yet played.
CrossCode - Not yet played.
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - GOTY
Ghost of a Tale - Recommended, not an RPG.
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom - Not yet played.
Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Played 2 hours, enjoyed what I played.
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - A mix of good and bad. It's good for a playthrough or two.
The Banner Saga 3 - Not yet played.
I voted on 4 games. I also own Cold Steel 2, but not on PC. Either way, that one is also not yet played.
BattleTech - Not yet played.
CrossCode - Not yet played.
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - GOTY
Ghost of a Tale - Recommended, not an RPG.
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom - Not yet played.
Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Played 2 hours, enjoyed what I played.
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - A mix of good and bad. It's good for a playthrough or two.
The Banner Saga 3 - Not yet played.
I voted on 4 games. I also own Cold Steel 2, but not on PC. Either way, that one is also not yet played.
fantadomat
Arcane
That is why you put the bigger names on top. Scrolling trough all that shit is confusing.
Mortmal
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Oh yes I seen it, I think he's just depressed. That happens frequently once you achieve your goal . He got his crowning achievement now he dont know what to do with his life.
fantadomat
Arcane
Still it was unfair to send his thread in to retardo. That guy put a lot of effort in to his posts. I see no reason to be not allowed to talk about the games he likes,do you?
V_K
Arcane
But nobody forbade him that. Just moved to a different subforum.
Mortmal
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Indeed its unfair but such is the codex , most post of safav should have been sent to retardo as well, there should be equal treatment for shitposters. It's a dictatorship severing your brofist privilege when you dont even break any rules.
fantadomat
Arcane
The safav bias really piss me off,you could just feel that he malevolent fucker that have only hate toward people here and the games they like. He is the only asshole i felt that should be banned.
Zanzoken
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Here is how I would compare the two:
Similarities
- You start as a nobody and have some agency over who you want to be in the world. There is no "chosen one", no main quest, no one to tell you what to do.
- The world is meant to exist on its own, irrespective of the player. NPC aren't just standing around waiting for you to come talk to them -- they have their own goals and motivations. The extent to which either game actually realizes this in a meaningful way is debatable, but it's clearly the intent, and is a clearly distinct approach to worldbuilding compared to something like say, Fallout New Vegas.
- You can influence the major factions of the world, and cause an impact on the balance of power.
- Companions in Kenshi are similar to companions in M&B (i.e. named NPCs, not troops). You equip them, have some control over how they are trained, have to make sure there is enough food. They don't have detailed backstories and are mostly just there to help you do your thing.
- Both games have decent mod support, although Kenshi is a bit more limited, probably due to both the engine and it being a new release.
Differences
- M&B combat is more "action RPG" since it puts you in the role of the commander and allows you to control sword swings, blocks, etc. Kenshi doesn't allow direct control of characters -- you tell them to attack and they fight based on their stats.
- M&B's world is sort of stock medieval fantasy, where Kenshi's is post-apoc. The world of Kenshi feels very alien, kind of like Morrowind with sci-fi elements.
- M&B's mechanic of hiring and leveling troops doesn't exist in Kenshi. But, Kenshi allows you to have a lot more companions -- up to 30 in vanilla -- and the battles can still get quite large.
- No mounts in Kenshi, but enemies are much more diverse. You fight other races, monsters, robots, etc.
- You can't actually join factions in Kenshi, or take over towns. But unlike M&B you can build your own base.
- Kenshi has detailed crafting systems and an extensive tech tree.
- Kenshi has a lot more music, but it is used more sporadically. No marching / going to war songs like M&B.
- You start as a nobody and have some agency over who you want to be in the world. There is no "chosen one", no main quest, no one to tell you what to do.
- The world is meant to exist on its own, irrespective of the player. NPC aren't just standing around waiting for you to come talk to them -- they have their own goals and motivations. The extent to which either game actually realizes this in a meaningful way is debatable, but it's clearly the intent, and is a clearly distinct approach to worldbuilding compared to something like say, Fallout New Vegas.
- You can influence the major factions of the world, and cause an impact on the balance of power.
- Companions in Kenshi are similar to companions in M&B (i.e. named NPCs, not troops). You equip them, have some control over how they are trained, have to make sure there is enough food. They don't have detailed backstories and are mostly just there to help you do your thing.
- Both games have decent mod support, although Kenshi is a bit more limited, probably due to both the engine and it being a new release.
Differences
- M&B combat is more "action RPG" since it puts you in the role of the commander and allows you to control sword swings, blocks, etc. Kenshi doesn't allow direct control of characters -- you tell them to attack and they fight based on their stats.
- M&B's world is sort of stock medieval fantasy, where Kenshi's is post-apoc. The world of Kenshi feels very alien, kind of like Morrowind with sci-fi elements.
- M&B's mechanic of hiring and leveling troops doesn't exist in Kenshi. But, Kenshi allows you to have a lot more companions -- up to 30 in vanilla -- and the battles can still get quite large.
- No mounts in Kenshi, but enemies are much more diverse. You fight other races, monsters, robots, etc.
- You can't actually join factions in Kenshi, or take over towns. But unlike M&B you can build your own base.
- Kenshi has detailed crafting systems and an extensive tech tree.
- Kenshi has a lot more music, but it is used more sporadically. No marching / going to war songs like M&B.
M&B is great at allowing you to be a bad MFer with a big army who can smash faces and take over the world.
Kenshi makes you quite fragile, in contrast, and is generally darker, harsher, and in need of a more thoughtful approach. It is much better for those who like exploring an unknown and hazardous world, with treasures and secrets waiting to be found if you can brave the dangers. There's also this pervasive sense of mystery as to what caused the world to become so desolate, and you can find clues to uncover the past if you're willing to look for them (kind of Age of Decadence in that regard).
Overall M&B is my favorite game of all time, but Kenshi is a serious contender for taking that spot over.
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fantadomat
Arcane
Another year,another bunch of people proudly proclaiming how much they don't play RPGs.
BEvers
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Another year,another bunch of people proudly proclaiming how much they don't play RPGs.
I played a ton of RPGs last year, but most of them were made in the '80s.
I'll play Kingmaker, ATOM et al. once all the major bugs are patched and any content DLCs are released. No need to rush into an unfinished new release when you still have a bunch of classics in your backlog.
Ok, so two things happened: the number of votes greatly increased, and I removed all the troll votes (and there were A LOT of them, just giving 4/4 to AssCreed or Fallout 76. Very subtle).
Now things are looking better. Nothing reaching 60-70% like Twitcher 3, PoE1 or D:OS, but might end up being a year like 2016.
Now things are looking better. Nothing reaching 60-70% like Twitcher 3, PoE1 or D:OS, but might end up being a year like 2016.
fantadomat
Arcane
ATOM have no real bugs,maybe balance issues for some players.It is the cleanest release i have seen in a decade maybe.Another year,another bunch of people proudly proclaiming how much they don't play RPGs.
I played a ton of RPGs last year, but most of them were made in the '80s.
I'll play Kingmaker, ATOM et al. once all the major bugs are patched and any content DLCs are released. No need to rush into an unfinished new release when you still have a bunch of classics in your backlog.
fantadomat
Arcane
If google sheets tell me that 15 votes where exactly the same IN A ROW, all giving 4/4 to Fallout 76 and AssCreed... then yeah, I'm removing that shit. Like I did in every poll before.
BEvers
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What if somebody had just linked the poll on Reddit?
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