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I have 't put much into crafting skills, until the last couple of levels, but I have te money to buy heavy armor.
Put 6 PER and take Snooping feat. Basically, 10++++++ WIL/6 PER/6 INT (7 if you want to take crafting feats like Power Management to augment your defense and Neurology to augment your offense), and then invest the rest of attribute points into AGI since you want to be stealthy. STR and DEX you can dump. This is basically the character I played when I finished the game for the second time, a stealthy PSI with dumped CON, STR, DEX and 0 Dodge/Evasion. I saw probably 90% of all the secrets this way, too. Maybe wear an Adaptive Goggle (or whatever it is, I forgot which one increase PER by 1) and switch to Detection Goggle when stumbling into minefields.I really want to make a full stealth PSI build but I so hate to miss all the mines, secrets and enemies in stealth since you cannot get a decent Perception score on such a character.
I just started a stealthy psi wizard last night, with 3 per and no points in traps, and he's spotting mines and hidden stalkers (before he spots them). You have to be in stealth when exploring, and don't just beeline everywhere.
I have been playing with my PSI Sniper and 10 perception and you do not spot Death Stalkers with such a low perception before they spot you on Autistic difficulty.
I really want to make a full stealth PSI build but I so hate to miss all the mines, secrets and enemies in stealth since you cannot get a decent Perception score on such a character.
It's not that bad, you can always just spam the fuck out of Metathermics powers to deal with mines and enemies.
Also, you could just try to make an unconventional build like a perceptive mage, now that you know the game inside and out.
There's at least one other unconventional mage build you can do which is pretty fun, and that is the very high CON mage, already somewhat encouraged by feats like http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fast_Metabolism, and in Expedition there is even more incentive to create such a mage, or so I've heard...
Do you mean the aura? Does it trigger mines?
Are psions getting nerfed in the expansion?
Quite contrary.
I just can't put this down now, must have sunk in about 6 hours yesterday and already thinking about what I'd do differently in another playthrough.
I've finished off the Arena & Gauntlet, took the base with Gorsky and got the house from the Coretech quests, now at the Protectorate base (Fort something)
As I have no weapons to maintain and only ever occasionally buy some psi/health boosters can I dump all my money into the house upgrades or is there anything worth saving for that's useful for psionics?
Super Steel might interest you even as a psionic, you can use it to make some nice boots depending on your playstyle, like say Infused Pig Leather Tabis if you're low on CON.
True but as a psionic you'll be doing a lot more kiting than carrying heavy stuff.Are psions getting nerfed in the expansion?
Quite contrary.
Because of the new discipline or are there buff that concern the 3 main disciplines?
Hilarious.
I just can't put this down now, must have sunk in about 6 hours yesterday and already thinking about what I'd do differently in another playthrough.
I've finished off the Arena & Gauntlet, took the base with Gorsky and got the house from the Coretech quests, now at the Protectorate base (Fort something)
As I have no weapons to maintain and only ever occasionally buy some psi/health boosters can I dump all my money into the house upgrades or is there anything worth saving for that's useful for psionics?
Super Steel might interest you even as a psionic, you can use it to make some nice boots depending on your playstyle, like say Infused Pig Leather Tabis if you're low on CON.
Or normal pig leather boots for the CC.
Put 6 PER and take Snooping feat. Basically, 10++++++ WIL/6 PER/6 INT (7 if you want to take crafting feats like Power Management to augment your defense and Neurology to augment your offense), and then invest the rest of attribute points into AGI since you want to be stealthy. STR and DEX you can dump. This is basically the character I played when I finished the game for the second time, a stealthy PSI with dumped CON, STR, DEX and 0 Dodge/Evasion. I saw probably 90% of all the secrets this way, too. Maybe wear an Adaptive Goggle (or whatever it is, I forgot which one increase PER by 1) and switch to Detection Goggle when stumbling into minefields.I really want to make a full stealth PSI build but I so hate to miss all the mines, secrets and enemies in stealth since you cannot get a decent Perception score on such a character.
You dont really need such a high Will even if you play pure psion. Most psi powers reach their cap at 300 effective level. Even if you have 10 Will, you can reach like 250 effective level in psi skills with headband and tac vest/ riot gear. Extra 50 points will yield a rather marginal power increase, so you can reduce will and invest more points into perception.I was thinking along the lines of this:
First draft: http://underrail.info.tm/build/?GQMDBwYFDwcAAAAAAADCglppAABfXwBaAMKHLcKHPABLKzkoHSwqZQVQIWYKLlcp
Not sure where to put Snooping. I am thinking about getting +1 perception and +2 perception from Junkyard Surprise.
Speaking of the arena - can you suggest atactic for a sniper/guns oriented charactervs the Carnifex, where the Carnifex gets to move first? He leaves me at a sliver of health and with a ton of status effects, and I can barely do anything when my turn comes.
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I really want to make a full stealth PSI build but I so hate to miss all the mines, secrets and enemies in stealth since you cannot get a decent Perception score on such a character.
+2 perception from Junkyard Surprise
Btw, ambush can be triggered with the light from telekinetic proxy.
I have been playing with my PSI Sniper and 10 perception and you do not spot Death Stalkers with such a low perception before they spot you on Autistic difficulty.
Lowest armor penalty and best protection is 27% if you make an insulated/biohazard riot gear with psi carapace shield and black cloth. You need STR 4 for it though.By the way is it possible to create an armor which is good for both stealth and psi? Preferably with low armor penalty.
I'd pick sturdy vest over insulated and biohazard, especially on hard and dominating difficulty.Lowest armor penalty and best protection is 27% if you make an insulated/biohazard riot gear with psi carapace shield and black cloth. You need STR 4 for it though.
Otherwise you can make a tactical vest out of the same components for 30%.
Most psi powers reach their cap at 300 effective level.I was thinking along the lines of this:
First draft: http://underrail.info.tm/build/?GQMDBwYFDwcAAAAAAADCglppAABfXwBaAMKHLcKHPABLKzkoHSwqZQVQIWYKLlcp
Not sure where to put Snooping. I am thinking about getting +1 perception and +2 perception from Junkyard Surprise.
That's true but study vest also increases the armor penalty unlike what it says on the wiki. It's not by a large amount though.I'd pick sturdy vest over insulated and biohazard, especially on hard and dominating difficulty.Lowest armor penalty and best protection is 27% if you make an insulated/biohazard riot gear with psi carapace shield and black cloth. You need STR 4 for it though.
Otherwise you can make a tactical vest out of the same components for 30%.
Enemies that deal cold and bio damage are rare, while extra life points are helpful in any situation.
Based on wiki. Even if some of the powers do scale past 300, I doubt you can get more than 343 in any psi skill.Most psi powers reach their cap at 300 effective level.I was thinking along the lines of this:
First draft: http://underrail.info.tm/build/?GQMDBwYFDwcAAAAAAADCglppAABfXwBaAMKHLcKHPABLKzkoHSwqZQVQIWYKLlcp
Not sure where to put Snooping. I am thinking about getting +1 perception and +2 perception from Junkyard Surprise.
Based on what do you conclude this?
Based on wiki. Even if some of the powers do scale past 300Most psi powers reach their cap at 300 effective level.I was thinking along the lines of this:
First draft: http://underrail.info.tm/build/?GQMDBwYFDwcAAAAAAADCglppAABfXwBaAMKHLcKHPABLKzkoHSwqZQVQIWYKLlcp
Not sure where to put Snooping. I am thinking about getting +1 perception and +2 perception from Junkyard Surprise.
Based on what do you conclude this?
I tested just now and sturdy doesn't have any penalty for me. Sturdy/Bio/Insulated have no penalty, Regen/Galvanic are +5% on tactical vest and +10% on riot. Still not sure why Styg felt the need to make riot gear get hurt more than tactical when it's already really bad.That's true but study vest also increases the armor penalty unlike what it says on the wiki. It's not by a large amount though.
Probably a recent change in the latest experimental or beta builds then, we'll see. Riot Gear is not so bad without a shield, the anti-melee bonus is alright, and you can still use any weapon you want.I tested just now and sturdy doesn't have any penalty for me. Sturdy/Bio/Insulated have no penalty, Regen/Galvanic are +5% on tactical vest and +10% on riot. Still not sure why Styg felt the need to make riot gear get hurt more than tactical when it's already really bad.That's true but study vest also increases the armor penalty unlike what it says on the wiki. It's not by a large amount though.
Nah, sturdy vest never had any armor penalty.Probably a recent change in the latest experimental or beta builds then, we'll see.
I don't remember taking both Interloper AND Paranoia, probably only one of them, so I guess those you can replace with Snooping?I was thinking along the lines of this:
First draft: http://underrail.info.tm/build/?GQMDBwYFDwcAAAAAAADCglppAABfXwBaAMKHLcKHPABLKzkoHSwqZQVQIWYKLlcp
Not sure where to put Snooping. I am thinking about getting +1 perception and +2 perception from Junkyard Surprise.
Nah, sturdy vest never had any armor penalty.Probably a recent change in the latest experimental or beta builds then, we'll see.
I don't know. Riot can be okay against melee, but it sucks against everything else. At best it seems like the sort of thing you keep in your bag and only put on when you're going to areas where you know it'll be useful, rather than a default thing that you wear at all times like the other three armour types are. Shields suck too, since 35% chance to actually work just isn't enough to rely on.Probably a recent change in the latest experimental or beta builds then, we'll see. Riot Gear is not so bad without a shield, the anti-melee bonus is alright, and you can still use any weapon you want.
I've figured it out, it's Aluminized Cloth that had a +5 armor penalty that's not listed on the wiki, not the Sturdy Vest, sorry for the confusion.I don't know. Riot can be okay against melee, but it sucks against everything else. At best it seems like the sort of thing you keep in your bag and only put on when you're going to areas where you know it'll be useful, rather than a default thing that you wear at all times like the other three armour types are. Shields suck too, since 35% chance to actually work just isn't enough to rely on.Probably a recent change in the latest experimental or beta builds then, we'll see. Riot Gear is not so bad without a shield, the anti-melee bonus is alright, and you can still use any weapon you want.
Also I'm on the latest experimental but not the alpha. Not sure what you're on, but I'm confident sturdy vests have never had a penalty up until now at least.
I'm fairly certain the core city faction merchants sell boot springs pretty often. But not totally certain.
I don't remember taking both Interloper AND Paranoia, probably only one of them, so I guess those you can replace with Snooping?I was thinking along the lines of this:
First draft: http://underrail.info.tm/build/?GQMDBwYFDwcAAAAAAADCglppAABfXwBaAMKHLcKHPABLKzkoHSwqZQVQIWYKLlcp
Not sure where to put Snooping. I am thinking about getting +1 perception and +2 perception from Junkyard Surprise.
Or you could wait until the xpac drop and see what you can do with that build. To be honest, my stealth-PSI wasn't a full PSI since I have 0 Metathermics and only partially invested in Psychokinesis, so I guess I had a bit more leniency regarding feats and had the opportunity to take Snooping from the very start.