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Wargroove - Advance Wars/Fire Emblem-inspired game by Starbound devs
- Thread starter Mazisky
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Regarding the puzzle parts, how bearable are they?
I liked Into the Breach and Incubation in this regard.
Tigranes
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I picked this up. For some crazy reason I missed out on Advance Wars (didn't have a GBA either), and Into the Breach is on my list, but I'm obviously coming off Fire Emblem, Shining Force 2, etc, etc.
Couple hours in, I like it, with caveats.
-> Custom sliders for difficulty for enemy damage, gold, and groove (charged special powers). Fantastic simple thing to have in a game like this.
-> Basic systems are solid and the basic gameplay loop is fast and efficient. I don't know yet how it'll stack up later on. 5-6 missions into campaign, no super 'puzzle'-y stuff yet. Mostly get a barracks, make units, fight, etc.
-> Art style is cartoonish utter shit. You can tell already right? Oh well.
-> Story is some kind of Disney shit but you can skip it all, just like latter day Fire Emblem. Doesn't bother me much.
Seems definitely worth a punt for $20 or whatnot. I have it on Switch but it should be identical for PC.
Couple hours in, I like it, with caveats.
-> Custom sliders for difficulty for enemy damage, gold, and groove (charged special powers). Fantastic simple thing to have in a game like this.
-> Basic systems are solid and the basic gameplay loop is fast and efficient. I don't know yet how it'll stack up later on. 5-6 missions into campaign, no super 'puzzle'-y stuff yet. Mostly get a barracks, make units, fight, etc.
-> Art style is cartoonish utter shit. You can tell already right? Oh well.
-> Story is some kind of Disney shit but you can skip it all, just like latter day Fire Emblem. Doesn't bother me much.
Seems definitely worth a punt for $20 or whatnot. I have it on Switch but it should be identical for PC.
vonAchdorf
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I'll get it once it releases on GOG, but I don't really like the art and the fact that it's another Medieval fantasy game. AW was great because it had tanks and stuff.
Trithne
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Yeah, the terrain defense model doesn't actually make sense in the medieval format, because your troops move out of the cover they're in to attack, but abstractions are abstract. It's perfectly functional and a good system, just more elegant in AW.
Not sure what you mean, it's a tactics game.
Then again I thought Incubation was a tactics game too so maybe that answers your question.
I find that the distinction between puzzle and tactics in a game like this has a lot to do with how much randomness is included.
If everything (from the AI behavior to hit/damage rolls) is fully deterministic and will always be the same under the same conditions, it is a lot more like a puzzle game than like a tactics game. You can basically win the battle the moment it starts (in your head, anyway). That's the major reason I really didn't like Into The Breach, it's just a fancy puzzle game with pew pew effects.
But if the game features randomness that forces you to adjust, it's definitely a tactics game.
Into the Breach has a ton of randomness about where the monsters are gonna spawn in and what they do.
AdolfSatan
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But you always know the outcome of every action before it's made. Hell, the premise is precisely that you assign the orders to your mechas already knowing what the kaiju's are going to do in the following turn.
Well, maybe not 100% puzzle, but pretty damn close. Enough to make me dislike the game based on my very strong dislike of puzzles.
Having me play a game is probably a reliable scientific method of determining if it is a puzzle...
This game does have a touch of randomness, there is like a 5% variation in damage done. But knights will still own mages, mages will still own harpies etc.
I just started a 4-person game for Codexers only. Join code is 32TVQX, do you dare defy my skeleton army? Let's go Tigranes Trithne pakoito Ventidius Dakka
And yes, the game is cross-platform, I don't care if you got it for Nintendo Switch, just shut up and join.
I just started a 4-person game for Codexers only. Join code is 32TVQX, do you dare defy my skeleton army? Let's go Tigranes Trithne pakoito Ventidius Dakka
And yes, the game is cross-platform, I don't care if you got it for Nintendo Switch, just shut up and join.
Sounds good. I'm a very reckless player, should be an interesting match once we get some more blood for the trough.
Asynchronous, it's awesome. Just jump in, take your turn, and then hit Mission > Suspend, then wait for a Steam notification it's your turn again.
Ventidius
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Would love to join you guys, but I haven't even purchased this yet. To be quite honest, it kinda fell off my radar a while back, but the feedback in this thread looks very encouraging, especially since I don't really have a problem with puzzle-like mission design, so I might still get it at some point.
Trithne
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Apparently to play online I need to have a paid membership to Nintendo Onlline, which I have no intention of doing unfortunately. Didn't realise I would be fucked by that.
Oh ... I didn't realize that game was over ... it doesn't notify you if it's not your turn ... gg
AdolfSatan
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Didn't get too far with this due to the stupid-ass story, but count me in for mp once my vacations are over.
I am played Langrisser / Wargroove in 90s. And greatly enjoying "Langrisser M".
It is project created via crowdfunding by fans. So monetary system is most f2p friendly everseen.
And I do enjoy the graphics, story etc. Also PC client exists for the game.
It is project created via crowdfunding by fans. So monetary system is most f2p friendly everseen.
And I do enjoy the graphics, story etc. Also PC client exists for the game.
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