Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[fantadomat]

Can someone explain to me why there are people in this world who praise this game as the best western cRPG to grace existence since, I don't know, P:T? Because such people do exist, just perhaps not here. What's the appeal of Dumpsterfire?

Because they haven't played anything else. If any RPG veteran is liking it,then he is a fucking retard!

 

[Sergiu64]

Can someone explain to me why there are people in this world who praise this game as the best western cRPG to grace existence since, I don't know, P:T? Because such people do exist, just perhaps not here. What's the appeal of Dumpsterfire?

Well... its not like it has that much competition in modern times.

Surprisingly I found it more fun than Pathfinder: Kingmaker... I couldn't bring myself to buy Original Sin 2 after absolutely hating the first one. And beyond that - Kingdom Come was awesome but completely different kind of an rpg.

This game is pretty good if you like making munchkin characters.

If you go all the way to P:T then sure there are better games out there... but honestly there are only so many isometric rpgs out there and this is probably one of the better ones.

 

[Alpan]

Can someone explain to me why there are people in this world who praise this game as the best western cRPG to grace existence since, I don't know, P:T? Because such people do exist, just perhaps not here. What's the appeal of Dumpsterfire?

1. People who like build-making and system in general. I kinda understand appeal, but imho, designing characters for Deadfire is more interesting than playing the game. Also, Obsidian did a pretty good work at pissing them off by nerfing everything remotely fun or powerful they come up with.

There are still numerous overpowered items and abilities in the game. The good thing is that they are rarely powerful in isolation, but in the context of a particular character build or a party composition.

If anything, the game is a vindication of the Sawyerist balancing agenda -- it is fun to make builds precisely because some semblance of balance is actually there.

 

[Safav Hamon]

I don't understand why Deadfire is always compared to Baldurs Gate, when it takes just as much influence from Fallout.

Baldurs Gate doesn't have skill checks, branching quests, joinable factions, a reputation system, multiple endings, overworld exploration, turn based combat, ect.

 

[Popiel]

I don't understand why Deadfire is always compared to Baldurs Gate, when it takes just as much influence from Fallout.

Baldurs Gate doesn't have skill checks, branching quests, joinable factions, a reputation system, multiple endings, overworld exploration, turn based combat, ect.

Because of marketing and visual style of first Pillows.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

BG always had full party creation.

 

[Trashos]

I don't understand why Deadfire is always compared to Baldurs Gate, when it takes just as much influence from Fallout.

Baldurs Gate doesn't have skill checks, branching quests, joinable factions, a reputation system, multiple endings, overworld exploration, turn based combat, ect.

Um... could it be because PoE1 was marketed as a spiritual successor to BG? Not sure, not an expert.

 

[Safav Hamon]

It's made by Fallout developers and that influence is just as noticeable. In Deadfire's case even moreso than Baldurs Gate.

 

[Roguey]

Is Sherry secretly a Safav alt? At least she had the courtesy to put all those images behind spoiler tags.

 

[FreeKaner]

Baldur's gate is popamole

 

[2house2fly]

Safav would be a sherry alt, if anything. Anyway they post completely differently

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Safav is Steve Ballmer.

 

[MajorMace]

Baldur's gate is popamole

Baldur's Gate is good popamole.
It's a silly powerfest which makes you grow from dying to mere hobgobelins to slaying demons.
It's a very satisfying game which also benefits from a strong personality, which transpires through its original hud and gameplay.

Baldur's gate 2 however... :shrug:

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Hi.

ash. Ash. ASH! Ashen Maw!

Gosh that is where we left off and of course more has happened since that time of sailing and running errands from port to port and Orange is now level 20 with most everyone else except that blue water wave guy but once they get back into the party I will top them up too and just like in the White March I am cleaning out the map sailing to all the islands and exploring them to remove the black fog, enchanting weapons and armor and tweaking for the end game but how did Orange get to become so powerful and what has happened with the choices she has made you wonder, well there are spoilies ahead so you are warned so let us get to it then okay? Okay!

Ashen Maw was very straight forward and hot omg sooo hot with lava and the heat in the air and another Dragon! It was awesome to see Eothas too from above along the stone bridges where you can look upon him in awe there were a number of party member quips made during this portion plus Jadaferlas the Ancient but it was underwhelming introduction and encounter but a lot has to do with Orange and her experience talking to dragons before so she is cool, calm and collected during the parlay. Oh and I have still not had an encounter with Sefyra who I let the Adra Dragon put their soul into so maybe there would be different dialog if I had met them already and all the other dragons I've met knew about it somehow.

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Eothas saves Orange and the party from the big volcanic explosion and upon our return to Neketaka we all had a big discussion where even my lovesome shows up and all the big players are represented but I was surprised to see the Royal Deadfire Company since I killed any and all who attacked us. Oh! And Paligenia left the party too for good I guess Orange ruffled too many of her feathers! And then what? Sailing and completing some quests, crossing t's and dotting i's. Some snippets of our journey.


- The gathering in Neketaka after the events in Ashen Maw.

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- Clearing out Crookspur for my lovesome and freeing the slavers which also made Queen Onekaza II happy.

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- Having fun taking care of the Royal Deadfire Company since they would not stop attacking us so Orange stormed into their headquarters.

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- Another gathering but this time a power play in the Vallian Trading Company where things just did not go very well for Director Castol.

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- Exploring many of the strange places while uncovering the black fog and uncovering oddities and magical items.

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So now Orange is all prepped with her ship because all the exploring saved up the gold to buy the best sails and the best hull and Orange is captain to 11 crew members still with the same ship from the start of the game . With only a few bounties left to take care of the next leg before sailing to Ukaizo Orange will now be starting on the new added story content but not the fighting pit one because I am not interested in that just more places to explore and unravel.

- What Orange and the party will be sinking their teeth into on the Easter long weekend!

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Prime Junta gosh ofc I am having fun this world has so much history they just added to it from the first game with more books to read and lore in the item descriptions and I hope you are enjoying it as much as I am.

Thanks,
Sherry

omg Sherry! It's so surreal that Orange just reached Ashen Mawe because I totally remember when you were only just sailing to Tikawara! I can't believe she's now level 20 and about to do The Forgotten Sanctum! lol Pallegina is the worst but I also love that she is the worst so I'm not surprised she left you (Unlike Maia who is actually just the worst

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omg all your screenshots are making me totally nostalgic for the Deadfire (I can't wait to replay it on the switch, hopefully soon)!!!! Your screenshots are beautiful and totally capture the atmosphere! I'm totally in love with Orange's adventures!!!!!!:heart emoji:

 

[frajaq]

 

[Lacrymas]

There are just too many notes, Herr Mozart Obsidian's writing team.

 

[Daidre]

When I looked at companion dialogue in Deadfire I had strong impression that "managing risks" and "cutting costs for strict budget" had much higher priority than quality of writing itself.
And in the end characters still ignore super-important events like Xoti meeting Eotas and Maya never noticing you murdered her faction.

 

[Safav Hamon]

When I looked at companion dialogue in Deadfire I had strong impression that "managing risks" and "cutting costs for strict budget" had much higher priority than quality of writing itself.
And in the end characters still ignore super-important events like Xoti meeting Eotas and Maya never noticing you murdered her faction.

Yet there's actually more companion dialogue in Deadfire than Pillars 1 if you look in the game files

 

[Reinhardt]

When I looked at companion dialogue in Deadfire I had strong impression that "managing risks" and "cutting costs for strict budget" had much higher priority than quality of writing itself.
And in the end characters still ignore super-important events like Xoti meeting Eotas and Maya never noticing you murdered her faction.

Yet there's actually more companion dialogue in Deadfire than Pillars 1 if you look in the game files

And how it's a good thing?

 

[Daidre]

And how it's a good thing?

Especially when at least 1/3 of it are romances. *shudders*

 

[Yosharian]

Random question out of nowhere: do we have mods that can completely rebuild the story companions into different classes, yet? Like, easily?

 

[Safav Hamon]

With over 400 fully voiceacted NPCs + the most reactivity and dialogue options of any RPG, it's easy to tell where most of the budget went.

 

[Lacrymas]

The voice acting was a last minute ditch effort to piggyback on the popularity of D:OS2, I don't think that it influenced many decisions before that.

 

[Safav Hamon]

It still would have costed them a fortune.

 

[Daidre]

They had decided full voiceover early enough at Kickstarter campaign. And it is quite noticeable in different writing approach comparing to POE that all dialogues were meant to be voiced.
Especially with dozens skill/race/class checks that in most cases lead to the same node.