RPG Codex's Best RPGs - 2019 - RESULTS ARE OUT!

[fantadomat]

"RPG game"

It is for rising my status at regular codexian counting at who wrote it the most time .

 

[AwesomeButton]

It has more C&C than Baldur's Gate 1/2.

That's not exactly a high bar.

Not low enough to trick me into trying it out.

 

[Sigourn]

I've never played it but from what I've seen, I'm surprised so many people argue for it being an RPG.

It's surprising to see people saying it's not an RPG. It ticks all the boxes that a game like Wizardry ticks, the only difference being one is real-time and the other turn-based.

 

[North Gibraltarian Dog]

Dark souls is having a lot of votes, hope it doesn't make the list this time, or at least gets a way lower spot.

It will rank very close to 2014 list, probably even improving its previous position.
It seems that top 20 will probably include The Witcher 3 and Age of Decadence this time, probably both will rank over Kotor II, Ultima Underground or Darklands.
Some, not 100% accurate, fast count data:

Spoiler

There are many more votes in this poll than in 2014 case. +300 codexers accounts already voted, 4 days before poll closing.

The Witcher 3 has 123 points. Enough to be in top 20 (+10 points over Kotor II e.g.).

The Age of Decadence with 168 points will probably reach top 15.

Dark Souls has 174 points and it's possible that it could improve some positions.

Top 10 seems to be the same than in 2014 poll at the moment, but probably will be some little changes in positions.

 

[deama]

Dark souls is having a lot of votes, hope it doesn't make the list this time, or at least gets a way lower spot.

It will rank very close to 2014 list, probably even improving its previous position.
It seems that top 20 will probably include The Witcher 3 and Age of Decadence this time, probably both will rank over Kotor II, Ultima Underground or Darklands.
Some, not 100% accurate, fast count data:

Spoiler

There are many more votes in this poll than in 2014 case. +300 codexers accounts already voted, 4 days before poll closing.

The Witcher 3 has 123 points. Enough to be in top 20 (+10 points over Kotor II e.g.).

The Age of Decadence with 168 points will probably reach top 15.

Dark Souls has 174 points and it's possible that it could improve some positions.

Top 10 seems to be the same than in 2014 poll at the moment, but probably will be some little changes in positions.

ffs I knew they should have gated the voting!

How did you get those results? Did you count them yourself?

 

[North Gibraltarian Dog]

Yes, a fast count of about 15-20 games who seem to have more votes, including some of the new ones.

 

[SniperHF]

will rank over Kotor II, Ultima Underground or Darklands.

I know the total # of games in the list is in flux, but a good idea might be to extend the list to where any game on the previous list, is on the current list. So if it ends up a top 85 or something you can see which games dropped off and how far.

 

[Butter]

will rank over Kotor II, Ultima Underground or Darklands.

I know the total # of games in the list is in flux, but a good idea might be to extend the list to where any game on the previous list, is on the current list. So if it ends up a top 85 or something you can see which games dropped off and how far.

I'd choose a cutoff that excludes meme votes like Fallout 4 and Mass Effect.

 

[deama]

Yes, a fast count of about 15-20 games who seem to have more votes, including some of the new ones.

Was it you who counted them? Did you ignore the ones that assigned 5 points to more than 2 games?

 

[Nano]

I'm gonna be pissed if Alpha Protocol is out of the top 30.

 

[DalekFlay]

All this Dark Souls love got me to finally install it, since I finished Risen 3 and hadn't chosen a next game yet. The save system is ass, but I love the style of it.

 

[Jasede]

Enjoy yourself, mate, but don't neglect the classics if you haven't gotten a chance to play Arcanum or Fallout.

 

[HarveyBirdman]

Listening to the Arcanum soundtrack is better than playing Arcanum.

 

[felipepepe]

I'm still counting the votes, but it's interesting how the Codex has a very specific taste on average... once again there's not a single roguelike or Diablo-clone on the Top 50.

I get the Diablo hate, but why no love for roguelikes, Codexia?

 

[Grauken]

We like party-based games

 

[Darth Canoli]

I get the Diablo hate, but why no love for roguelikes, Codexia?

They're fun little games but that's all they are.

 

[T. Reich]

I'm still counting the votes, but it's interesting how the Codex has a very specific taste on average... once again there's not a single roguelike or Diablo-clone on the Top 50.

I get the Diablo hate, but why no love for roguelikes, Codexia?

Personal opinion - both roguelikes and hack'n'slash games ARE at the very least borderline RPGs. Just like action-RPGs, or stat-heavy squad-based turn-based tactics, etc etc (we all know what often-voted games I'm referring to here).
BUT - they aren't exactly "pure form" RPGs, are they? (inb4, "what is an RPG?").
So, personally, in my votes I dropped such games or gave them lower votes because I believe "purer" RPGs deserve to be in the limelight of the "top RPGs of all time" rating.
Otherwise, based on purely my gaming preferences, I'd have given both Path of Exile and Deus Ex a solid 5.

Additional conjectures:
1) hack'n'slash has a stigma for "dumbing down" RPGs, so it gets shunned.
2) roguelikes are way too niches, even for codexian tastes.

 

[Ismaul]

why no love for roguelikes

Only character build choices, no actual RP.

 

[felipepepe]

why no love for roguelikes

Only character build choices, no actual RP.

True to some extend, but how many other beloved RPGs are like that? Not only classic Wizardries, but what are the RP choices of Might & Magic VI, System Shock 2 or Dungeon Master?

 

[CryptRat]

Personal opinion - both roguelikes and hack'n'slash games ARE at the very least borderline RPGs. Just like action-RPGs, or stat-heavy squad-based turn-based tactics, etc etc (we all know what often-voted games I'm referring to here).
BUT - they aren't exactly "pure form" RPGs, are they? (inb4, "what is an RPG?").

I think it's a bad comparison. IMHO rogue-likes are pure form RPGs in the sense that the target audience is RPG purists. Action-RPGs, on contrary, are, to various extents (Daggerfall is different from the last Assassin's Creed), RPGs which are meant to appeal to people who hate RPGs.

 

[Roguey]

Handcrafted content: win
Procedurally generated content: lose

 

[Lord Andre]

My one gripe is that most people vote Fallout 2 / Gothic 2 / M&M 6

instead of

Fallout 1 / Gothic 1 / M&M 7

Why would you choose the bloated, gets boring halfway through version over the short but tighter quality version ?

 

[Darth Roxor]

because M&M7 is shit while M&M6 is not, fuck you

 

[Lady_Error]

Once Caves of Qud is finished, it could become the roguelike that makes it into the Top 50. Even the Early Access version seems to be miles above any other roguelike so far.

Except maybe FTL and NEO Scavenger.

 

[Ismaul]

because M&M7 is shit while M&M6 is not, fuck you

Still, he's right about Fallout 1 and Gothic 1. The story and setting are miles better and more coherent in FO1 than FO2; and the feeling of being treated like shit, of starting as a zero and gaining power and respect is at its best in Gothic 1. Also the prison colony is a much more interesting and cutthroat setting than the G2 mainland, which is why the NotR expansion brings it back.