RPG Codex's Best RPGs - 2019 - RESULTS ARE OUT!

[Kitchen Utensil]

I'm not sure how much stock you can place in the downvotes, since not everyone who voted downvoted.

True, but for this particular example (Witcher 3 vs. Arx Fatalis) that doesn't matter much. On the contrary, Witcher 3 would've received even more downvotes compared to Arx Fatalis.

 

[S.torch]

I don't remember drastic differences in W3 storyline. Yes it has 3 endings and some character endings, but most of it postgame. There is some C&C ingame, allright. But that's only RPG elements it have. I can compare W3 to Telltale adventures in that regard.
But in combat and progression it's even worse.
When you find some weapon it will be autoleveled to your level. And most of the loot is complete random. Or at least it was when I played the game. I think it's a shitty system, cause there is no motivation for exploring at all.
You can't upgrade all skills, yes. But the playing style is not really changes if you choose one build or another.

I really don't understand your complains. The game you voted the first (Planescape) has a very, very defective combat system to say the least, if I remember correctly, only one of the three finals is the "good one" and you are given a "base-character". In other words, you have a lot of things in common between Planescape and The Witcher, yet you think is best anyway.

You're sure you're not disliking it because is "new"?

 

[fantadomat]

Witcher 3 isn't an RPG, it's an action-adventure game.

Same could be said about Vampire and Dark souls. It will be a nice to have a sub-genre poll about the best in each respective sub genre.

 

[thesheeep]

Here, some of you guys seem to need it:

Spoiler

 

[Jasede]

And PS:T could be called a jRPG, something Dark Souls certainly isn't. Some extremists consider System Shock 2 a pure FPS with a tacked-on skill system. I personally consider Jagged Alliance 2 a tactical combat simulator with RPG elements, and not an RPG.

It would just be endless arguing about whether a certain game is part of a certain category or not.

Don't you remember the endless "Deus Ex is an RPG! No, Deus Ex is an FPS with RPG elements! No, Deus Ex is an FPS/RPG hybrid! No, Deus Ex is a First Person Adventure! (The latter is a less-known term Nintendo coined to describe Metroid Prime.)" threads?

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

I just want moar polls!

 

[majorsoccer]

And PS:T could be called a jRPG, something Dark Souls certainly isn't.

In my honest opinion: No character creation = no RPG

 

[Sailor Woedica]

However, it also seems that the influx of new voters (234->361) as well as inclusion of new arrivals in top 50 (15 of them) indicates a change in the makeup Codex's user base as well as their sensibilities.

Slay queen!

 

[Q]

I really don't understand your complains. The game you voted the first (Planescape) has a very, very defective combat system to say the least, if I remember correctly, only one of the three finals is the "good one" and you are given a "base-character". In other words, you have a lot of things in common between Planescape and The Witcher, yet you think is best anyway.

You're sure you're not disliking it because is "new"?

PST combat is not it's high point, yes.
But at least you have 3 different classes, which you can mix a little.
You have different stats setups. Which is affecting what you can and can't do in dialogue checks at least.
You can have different party setups.
So, I think, one Nameless One would still differ more from another, than one W3 Geralt form another.
And there is still the question about quality of these tools. In PST we have party combat, with at least some tactical spells. We have hand placed loot, for different Nameless One roles (and different party members).
As the future RPGs, I want games at least have more roleplaying tools like PST, and not like W3.

 

[Strange Fellow]

I just want moar polls!

Jason Liang Safav Hamon

 

[fantadomat]

Ahh the poll is as expected,the classics are still holding up while the first generation is disappearing from the list. It is a steady decline brought by the influx of a younger generation of RPGfans. Anyway,it is a decent list.



felipepepe how about a few polls in sub genres line action/adventure,rtwp,tb/tactical,blobbers ?

 

[Nano]

Sane could be said about Vampire

Um, as in Bloodlines? Literally no one argues that it isn't an RPG.

 

[Ismaul]

It is a steady decline brought by the influx of a younger generation of RPGfans.

I'm not sure that's the only factor. New games are out, and some have displaced others in our personal top lists, so that also has an influence. Plus, limited points to distribute makes some games fall off the wayside. Between classics and new good games, some previous games are bound to be lost from the list.

 

[fantadomat]

Sane could be said about Vampire

Um, as in Bloodlines? Literally no one argues that it isn't an RPG.

They are different kind of RPGs mate,they rely heavily on atmosphere and player immersion trough good writing and dialogue choices.

 

[Mortmal]

I had my doubts about this poll but the Witcher-related butthurt made it all worthwhile.

The witcher is coming from a very special country, a country of people staying between themselves, only using their own language in shoutbox, religious fanatics burning harry potter books in the street...Poland. So the butthurt about witcher 3 losing its rank was to be expected.

 

[fantadomat]

It is a steady decline brought by the influx of a younger generation of RPGfans.

I'm not sure that's the only factor. New games are out, and some have displaced others in our personal top lists, so that also has an influence. Plus, limited points to distribute makes some games fall off the wayside. Between classics and new good games, some previous games are bound to be lost from the list.

Yeah,i agree the points were not enough,it would have been better if they were 30. That way you still get to for those you like the most and have enough to give for a new entries. Everything else got an increase,except the points per dude. I would argue about new games pushing away old classics from any self respecting grognard's list. Still we did get a lot of good RPGs in the past few years.

 

[majorsoccer]

Ahh the poll is as expected,the classics are still holding up while the first generation is disappearing from the list. It is a steady decline brought by the influx of a younger generation of RPGfans. Anyway,it is a decent list.

decline is trying to play a game without automap

 

[fantadomat]

Ahh the poll is as expected,the classics are still holding up while the first generation is disappearing from the list. It is a steady decline brought by the influx of a younger generation of RPGfans. Anyway,it is a decent list.

decline is trying to play a game without automap

True,they don't make them as they use to. Now RPGs are tailored around auto maps and GPS garbage dots. While in the good old days my son,there was no such shit,NPCs were giving you directions to the place you need to go and the map design was logical and well crafted. Ohhhhh how i have grown old my son,things change and as always the good old days were better!

 

[Ismaul]

the butthurt about witcher 3 losing its rank

Uhhh, you sure the butthurt is about it losing rank, not being still so high on the list when matched with classics?

Sure it lost a bit to AoD, but aside from that, the top 10 is pretty much inaccessible to recent games. So TW3 going from #1 in 2012-2016 to #15 of all time is not much of a drop really if you start the rank count at 11 for recent games.

 

[toro]

After all this time, I'm still not sure if the Codex likes ELEX or if this is all part of some grand meme.
Haven't played it yet, but if Risen 2 and 3 are anything to go by...

It's a meme.

 

[Myzzrym]

Huh, never thought Battle Brothers and Dragon Dogma would make it to Top50. That's pretty cool.

 

[Ismaul]

ELEX >>>>> Any Elder Scrolls game, most RTwP D&D derivatives.

 

[fantadomat]

Huh, never thought Battle Brothers and Dragon Dogma would make it to Top50. That's pretty cool.

It is pretty decline in my book. BB is a good turn based combat game,but not a great RPG in general. It is a just a game to sit and just have a few battles. DD is a just choppy PS2/3? jap shit game. I am the most butthurt about Darks souls being in this list at all,it is an insult to all the RPGs out there!

 

[majorsoccer]

Ahh the poll is as expected,the classics are still holding up while the first generation is disappearing from the list. It is a steady decline brought by the influx of a younger generation of RPGfans. Anyway,it is a decent list.

decline is trying to play a game without automap

True,they don't make them as they use to. Now RPGs are tailored around auto maps and GPS garbage dots. While in the good old days my son,there was no such shit,NPCs were giving you directions to the place you need to go and the map design was logical and well crafted. Ohhhhh how i have grown old my son,things change and as always the good old days were better!

then stop playing mainstream games and play true quality RPGs like Pillars of Eternity

 

[fantadomat]

Ahh the poll is as expected,the classics are still holding up while the first generation is disappearing from the list. It is a steady decline brought by the influx of a younger generation of RPGfans. Anyway,it is a decent list.

decline is trying to play a game without automap

True,they don't make them as they use to. Now RPGs are tailored around auto maps and GPS garbage dots. While in the good old days my son,there was no such shit,NPCs were giving you directions to the place you need to go and the map design was logical and well crafted. Ohhhhh how i have grown old my son,things change and as always the good old days were better!

then stop playing mainstream games and play true quality RPGs like Pillars of Eternity

Nah,don't have enough time this days mate. I am too busy playing your mum mate,it will quite the surprise when you try to collect the inheritance.