World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[fantadomat]

So are the anarchist the "good guys" or just the "lesser evil" too?

Damsel is part of the anarchs so of course they're the good guys!

This will made a good fuck pillow,too much clothes tho!

 

[Herumor]

So are the anarchist the "good guys" or just the "lesser evil" too?

The closest there ever were to 'good guys' in VtM were the Salubri, but at the end of the day, they're still parasites. Anyway, this is from the V5 - Anarchs book, so make of it what you will:

 

[Lambach]

What the unholy Satanic fuck is this?

 

[Vibalist]

Really?...

 

[Delterius]

What the unholy Satanic fuck is this?

first time parents are just the worst

 

[Storyfag]

So are the anarchist the "good guys" or just the "lesser evil" too?

The closest there ever were to 'good guys' in VtM were the Salubri, but at the end of the day, they're still parasites. Anyway, this is from the V5 - Anarchs book, so make of it what you will:

What nonsense is this? Of course feeding vitae to babies is good for them. Ask any Bratovich or Obertus

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

What the unholy Satanic fuck is this?

Cleavers are one of the new Predator Types (this is one of the new things in V5, and one of the top additions since it makes feeding far less abstract and that can't be handwaved; also helps underline that you're a monster and not X-Men with a blood manabar). Cleavers are vampires who either stay with their mortal family or find a new family (the implication in the entry being that they steal someone's identity), and they may either try to keep their condition a secret or try to "make it work" with their family/"family."

And in case you didn't pick up on the subtext, the book and vampire society in general see Cleavers as being as inherently dangerous and just a step away from going utterly insane. Like, dangerous on such a level that older and wiser Kindred (who, to quote "CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU") consider that it's best for everyone involved to just kill the Cleaver's family/"family" wholesale.

Another thing to notice there is that it's basically a bunch of disturbed vampires talking about turning their kids to blood-bound Ghouls and murdering child protective services when they don't let the kids go to school anymore (while being convinced the schools are under Camarilla's control). Or how it's such a hassle if the kid loses too much blood because they just love them so much they can't help but feed on them.

 

[Lambach]

Cleavers are one of the new Predator Types (this is one of the new things in V5, and one of the top additions since it makes feeding far less abstract and that can't be handwaved; also helps underline that you're a monster and not X-Men with a blood manabar). Cleavers are vampires who either stay with their mortal family or find a new family (the implication in the entry being that they steal someone's identity), and they may either try to keep their condition a secret or try to "make it work" with their family/"family."

And in case you didn't pick up on the subtext, the book and vampire society in general see Cleavers as being as inherently dangerous and just a step away from going utterly insane. Like, dangerous on such a level that older and wiser Kindred (who, to quote "CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU") consider that it's best for everyone involved to just kill the Cleaver's family/"family" wholesale.

Another thing to notice there is that it's basically a bunch of disturbed vampires talking about turning their kids to blood-bound Ghouls and murdering child protective services when they don't let the kids go to school anymore (while being convinced the schools are under Camarilla's control). Or how it's such a hassle if the kid loses too much blood because they just love them so much they can't help but feed on them.

I'm liking my decision to stay away from V5 more and more. I feel my IQ free-falling after every sentence of your explanation.

 

[J1M]

Not that shocking to me. I saw what it was like in that Anarch bar in Bloodlines.

 

[Prime Junta]

cleaver ~ breeder?

It’s sick and gross and therefore fits VtM nicely.

 

[Cael]

Cleavers are one of the new Predator Types (this is one of the new things in V5, and one of the top additions since it makes feeding far less abstract and that can't be handwaved; also helps underline that you're a monster and not X-Men with a blood manabar). Cleavers are vampires who either stay with their mortal family or find a new family (the implication in the entry being that they steal someone's identity), and they may either try to keep their condition a secret or try to "make it work" with their family/"family."

And in case you didn't pick up on the subtext, the book and vampire society in general see Cleavers as being as inherently dangerous and just a step away from going utterly insane. Like, dangerous on such a level that older and wiser Kindred (who, to quote "CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU") consider that it's best for everyone involved to just kill the Cleaver's family/"family" wholesale.

Another thing to notice there is that it's basically a bunch of disturbed vampires talking about turning their kids to blood-bound Ghouls and murdering child protective services when they don't let the kids go to school anymore (while being convinced the schools are under Camarilla's control). Or how it's such a hassle if the kid loses too much blood because they just love them so much they can't help but feed on them.

I'm liking my decision to stay away from V5 more and more. I feel my IQ free-falling after every sentence of your explanation.

You are lucky that you haven't seen that Singularity of Stupidity that is the gay muslim woke sjw.

 

[Sykar]

Vampires are woke and inclusive. They suck everyone dry equally!

 

[BANANA CONDUCT]

They suck everyone dry equally!

They do not, they absolutely discriminate on who to suck and who not to suck dry

 

[Sykar]

They suck everyone dry equally!

They do not, they absolutely discriminate on who to suck and who not to suck dry

Every group has their bigots!

 

[True Ukrainian]

I actually like cleavers as an idea. A psycho vampire raising a family of ghouls and eventually controlling a neighborhood or small town from the shadows would make an interesting antagonist if done properly.

 

[Sukhāvatī]

Ye, Cleaver sounds like it would fit a Malkavian well, with varying extremes. Maybe a tad off for the other clans though?

Spoiler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)#Family_background

 

[Infinitron]

This week it's GameSpot:



https://www.gamespot.com/videos/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-exclusive-tore/2300-6449484/

Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 - Exclusive Toreador Clan Reveal Trailer
The next full-blood Vampire clan in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 has been revealed by Paradox Interactive - Toreador! Also known as the Clan of the Rose, Toreador are creators of art and beauty known for their hedonistic ways.

 

[whydoibother]

Why would you make an exclusive trailer? Isn't the whole point of a trailer to reach as many people as possible, because its a mix between announcement and marketing?
Then again, I half expect platforms to start advertising how they are running exclusive ads, specific for their platform. Hitle... I mean Marx was right all along.

 

[Infinitron]

Well it's only an exclusive for like six hours.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

They know people will go wherever this trailer is, in order to see it, so they're using it to drive traffic to a particular place.

Not so for generic advertising. And no, they're not the same thing

 

[Herumor]

It's not actually exclusive. PC Gamer got to reveal Brujah, can't remember who it was for Tremere, this week it's Gamespot for Toreador, and the remaining two Clans will presumably be revealed by some other two websites.

 

[Prime Junta]

Torrie it is then. Tooooold ya

because of course they would

(also that vid looked like it was going places, no such luck ofc)

 

[PulsatingBrain]

It's not actually exclusive. PC Gamer got to reveal Brujah, can't remember who it was for Tremere, this week it's Gamespot for Toreador, and the remaining two Clans will presumably be revealed by some other two websites.

Well there's a certain amount of exclusivity there then.

 

[Tao]

Those sneakpicks did not look well so far for the game. We can hope is only like an alpha tech demo of the powers or something, and not actual gameplay imo.

 

[whydoibother]

Those sneakpicks did not look well so far for the game. We can hope is only like an alpha tech demo of the powers or something, and not actual gameplay imo.

The sneak peaks were clearly very early stuff, with missing particles. What I took from them is that the lighting looks good (also seen in other promotional screenshots). They got the light and dark right, and thats very important. The visual jank I can tolerate.