Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[rusty_shackleford]

Kingmaker is a better game than either BG or BG2, only IE game that I would maaaaaybe rank over Kingmaker is IWD; come at me bros.

of course it is, kangmaker is TB and BG1 & 2 are rtwp

 

[meatface]

I picked this up and want to go into it mostly blind, as I'd like to actually try and roleplay a character (rather than do the homework and min-max a build), but I can't help asking if there are any absolute must-have or must-avoid stats/classes/etc. I'm hoping to play on Challenging mode, but I heard some rumblings about uneven difficulty, at least in the original reviews of the game -- is it reasonable for a first playthrough?

 

[Fedora Master]

Kingmaker is a better game than either BG or BG2, only IE game that I would maaaaaybe rank over Kingmaker is IWD; come at me bros.

Naaah. Kangmaker is up there but I'd still rate BG2 the highest. Nostalgia's a bitch. *sips*

 

[AwesomeButton]

All your retarded opinions are complete shit.

You like POE and spend your time writing guides about it. Nuff said.

I don't like PoE and that's verifiable, but you can't deny you are a genuine Trump fanboy.

 

[King Crispy]

Let's keep the political bullshit out of GRPG, shall we?

 

[Owlish]

All your retarded opinions are complete shit.

You like POE and spend your time writing guides about it. Nuff said.

I don't like PoE and that's verifiable, but you can't deny you are a genuine Trump fanboy.

So "verifiable" it's belied by your signature (I hate this game so much I'll make mods for it and write guides about it!)

And so assblasted you bring up politics

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Let's keep the political bullshit out of GRPG, shall we?

Keeping politics out of GRPG won't happen until developers stop insisting on putting real world politics into RPGs.

 

[PsychoFox]

Let's keep the political bullshit out of GRPG, shall we?

Keeping politics out of GRPG won't happen until developers stop insisting on putting real world politics into RPGs.

I blame Anita Sarkeesian.

 

[Reinhardt]

Can't stack like 5 puddles of Laughter on the ground, though. The best combination really is to cast a bunch of grease first, throw a web or two, and then when the combat starts to try to use Hideous Laughter on him.

My naked samurai girl, Valerie, Amiri, Jaethal and Linzi found this post very helpful.

 

[Reinhardt]

All your retarded opinions are complete shit.

You like POE and spend your time writing guides about it. Nuff said.

I don't like PoE and that's verifiable, but you can't deny you are a genuine Trump fanboy.

 

[Fedora Master]

When's the next step for the Depths in story mode? Just finished Season of Bloom but the dungeon is still blocked.

Durrr, it resolved itself just now.

 

[Luckmann]

Kingmaker is a better game than either BG or BG2, only IE game that I would maaaaaybe rank over Kingmaker is IWD; come at me bros.

Naaah. Kangmaker is up there but I'd still rate BG2 the highest. Nostalgia's a bitch. *sips*

BG1 was and is always superior to BG2 in almost all ways except technologically and mechanically.

 

[smaug]

Kingmaker is a better game than either BG or BG2, only IE game that I would maaaaaybe rank over Kingmaker is IWD; come at me bros.

Naaah. Kangmaker is up there but I'd still rate BG2 the highest. Nostalgia's a bitch. *sips*

BG1 was and is always superior to BG2 in almost all ways except technologically and mechanically.

BG1 is sucks.

 

[Luckmann]

Kingmaker is a better game than either BG or BG2, only IE game that I would maaaaaybe rank over Kingmaker is IWD; come at me bros.

Naaah. Kangmaker is up there but I'd still rate BG2 the highest. Nostalgia's a bitch. *sips*

BG1 was and is always superior to BG2 in almost all ways except technologically and mechanically.

BG1 is sucks.

You is sucks.

 

[smaug]

No u. But seriously BG1 is fucking boring isometric, with too many wilderness area’s with boring exploration and boring bestiary. Gold Box is better.

 

[Reinhardt]

with too many wilderness area’s with boring exploration

 

[smaug]

with too many wilderness area’s with boring exploration

 

[Fedora Master]

They are baaaaaaack, this time on level 11 of the endless dungeon.

 

[hell bovine]

I picked this up and want to go into it mostly blind, as I'd like to actually try and roleplay a character (rather than do the homework and min-max a build), but I can't help asking if there are any absolute must-have or must-avoid stats/classes/etc. I'm hoping to play on Challenging mode, but I heard some rumblings about uneven difficulty, at least in the original reviews of the game -- is it reasonable for a first playthrough?

You can go with whatever class you like, because apart from the premade companions that you have to gather like Pokemons find and recruit, you can make your own hirelings for $$$. At worst you'll struggle through the prologue, because you start out with a bard and a sorcerer, but later any shortcomings of your main character can be made up by the party.

The only class I'd stay away from is the mystic theurge, because with spellcasters it's a race to get to the higher level spells asap. However, arcane trickster works for wizards, because effectively you need only one level of rogue plus a feat to qualify.

Things that make the game easier, while not requiring much understanding of the system: animal companions (if in doubt, pick the one with the highest ac) and alchemist bombs.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

because effectively you need only one level of rogue plus a feat to qualify.

You should take a lvl of vivi though which let's you qualify just as well and has the advantage of mutagen and a bunch of spell slots where you can shove true strikes in even if you take divination as forbidden school on wizard. Also, you can cast vivi scrolls without UMD check (heal etc).

 

[smaug]

Luckmann fuck off with your hats

 

[Luckmann]

because effectively you need only one level of rogue plus a feat to qualify.

You should take a lvl of vivi though which let's you qualify just as well and has the advantage of mutagen and a bunch of spell slots where you can shove true strikes in even if you take divination as forbidden school on wizard. Also, you can cast vivi scrolls without UMD check (heal etc).

Yeah, from an optimization perspective, there's very little reason not to take Vivisectionist instead of Rogue. In the TTRPG, Alchemists do not count as spellcasters, tho, and I was told that they didn't in PF:K either, but if they do, man that's great.

 

[hell bovine]

because effectively you need only one level of rogue plus a feat to qualify.

You should take a lvl of vivi though which let's you qualify just as well and has the advantage of mutagen and a bunch of spell slots where you can shove true strikes in even if you take divination as forbidden school on wizard. Also, you can cast vivi scrolls without UMD check (heal etc).

I agree, but I was thinking more of Octavia, since she's the only wizard companion and already has one level of rogue.

 

[meatface]

I picked this up and want to go into it mostly blind, as I'd like to actually try and roleplay a character (rather than do the homework and min-max a build), but I can't help asking if there are any absolute must-have or must-avoid stats/classes/etc. I'm hoping to play on Challenging mode, but I heard some rumblings about uneven difficulty, at least in the original reviews of the game -- is it reasonable for a first playthrough?

You can go with whatever class you like, because apart from the premade companions that you have to gather like Pokemons find and recruit, you can make your own hirelings for $$$. At worst you'll struggle through the prologue, because you start out with a bard and a sorcerer, but later any shortcomings of your main character can be made up by the party.

The only class I'd stay away from is the mystic theurge, because with spellcasters it's a race to get to the higher level spells asap. However, arcane trickster works for wizards, because effectively you need only one level of rogue plus a feat to qualify.

Things that make the game easier, while not requiring much understanding of the system: animal companions (if in doubt, pick the one with the highest ac) and alchemist bombs.

That's reassuring, thanks! After spending a good 3 hours of hand-wringing in character creation, I still can't decide between one of the monks, an INT or WIS sorcerer, or a knife master, so I'll just sleep on it for now. I've never played a Pathfinder game before either, which makes the whole multiclassing system a bit daunting, so I'm guessing I should stick to a single class, rather than risk wrecking my character while trying to get fancy. But damn, this looks like a fantastic game for anyone who enjoys tinkering with character builds (so long as the actual gameplay is decent, haha).

 

[AwesomeButton]

All your retarded opinions are complete shit.

You like POE and spend your time writing guides about it. Nuff said.

I don't like PoE and that's verifiable, but you can't deny you are a genuine Trump fanboy.

So "verifiable" it's belied by your signature (I hate this game so much I'll make mods for it and write guides about it!)

And so assblasted you bring up politics

Eh, dumbfucks never change... I've neither made mods nor written guides. If you could read, you would know that.

EDIT: I don't "bring up politics", I bring up proof of how retarded you are, in case there is anyone left who hasn't noticed that. I'm sure you have many other traits that demonstrate you are a moron, this is just one you've manifested on the Codex.