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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

Haplo

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
Erm, no, he's dead. Note the xp awarded (and Dreadful Carnage triggered). Amiri tried to get an Opportunity attack off Outflank, but no longer had a valid target, so no hit/damage rolls.
 

Cael

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Erm, no, he's dead. Note the xp awarded (and Dreadful Carnage triggered). Amiri tried to get an Opportunity attack off Outflank, but no longer had a valid target, so no hit/damage rolls.
Good. It is nice to see something not as bloated as a 10-day old dead whale when it comes to bugmaker.
 

cloudropis

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Game is at its lowest price during Steam Sales. Would love to get it, but the fact the EE actually brought a resurgence of old bugs makes me queasy, especially since there's other stuff I want to buy that I can play right now, while I'd have to let KM sit in my library until it gets fixed further. Maybe I should just avoid it until Autumn sales when, hopefully, it will be less broken.
Decisions, decisions.
 

PsychoFox

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Bah. It seemed like the game was getting updated everyday and now that there's a real crippling issue, we haven't heard anything in a week.
Game is at its lowest price during Steam Sales. Would love to get it, but the fact the EE actually brought a resurgence of old bugs makes me queasy, especially since there's other stuff I want to buy that I can play right now, while I'd have to let KM sit in my library until it gets fixed further. Maybe I should just avoid it until Autumn sales when, hopefully, it will be less broken.
Decisions, decisions.
I regret getting the game personally because of the bugs. The game itself is fantastic imo, but i've encountered the stutter bug and it makes the game unplayable chapter 2 onwards. The devs are aware and working on it but nothing so far. And this is one of those "old" bugs that has resurfaced.
 

Haplo

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
Up to you. I haven't really encountered any serious bugs. The bugs you mention do not seem to affect me.
 

Cael

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Played it already? Or still the usual?
Listen to fanbois? Lol! You make me laugh. What you shill for can do without my money, thanks.
So that's a no then?
I can say "yes" and the shills would still say I haven't. Like sjws, you can say a clear sky is blue and they will still claim you lied. Why bother saying anything definitive when the fanbois are so deluded that they will believe what they want to believe? Paiturd trained them well.
 

Reinhardt

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Played it already? Or still the usual?
Listen to fanbois? Lol! You make me laugh. What you shill for can do without my money, thanks.
So that's a no then?
I can say "yes" and the shills would still say I haven't. Like sjws, you can say a clear sky is blue and they will still claim you lied. Why bother saying anything definitive when the fanbois are so deluded that they will believe what they want to believe? Paiturd trained them well.
So that's a "no" then?
 

Rev

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Ok, I'm finally going to buy this game thanks the 50% discount at Steam. Just one question, tho: is the season pass worth it?
 

NJClaw

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Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture
Ok, I'm finally going to buy this game thanks the 50% discount at Steam. Just one question, tho: is the season pass worth it?
The main game has plenty of content. If you want to explore everything it has to offer, you are looking at more than 100 hours of playtime.

Maybe the season pass is worth it, but chances are that the base game will be more than enough for you. I mean, there is no point in getting DLCs if you get fed up with the game.
 

Rev

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The main game has plenty of content. If you want to explore everything it has to offer, you are looking at more than 100 hours of playtime.

Maybe the season pass is worth it, but chances are that the base game will be more than enough for you. I mean, there is no point in getting DLCs if you get fed up with the game.
You have a point, but if the DLCs are worth it I don't have a problem buying them, especially if they're something like The White March for PoE, which was the top qualità content for the game.
On the other hand, if it's not that good or it doesn't add a lot of content I can skip it, or wait for a better price.
 
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I really don't like the art direction and visual aspect in general. Do you guys eventally get used to it, or does it even become charming at some point ?
I know a few games that I found repulsive and ended up liking in the end, visually speaking (like Witcher 2 back then).
Does the game have some good looking locations (non-spoily screens are appreciated).

We're talking about several dozens of Gigs to dl and my bandwidth sucks major dicks, wanna make sure it's worh it.
Recommandations & feedback appreciated folks :)
 

Cael

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Played it already? Or still the usual?
Listen to fanbois? Lol! You make me laugh. What you shill for can do without my money, thanks.
So that's a no then?
I can say "yes" and the shills would still say I haven't. Like sjws, you can say a clear sky is blue and they will still claim you lied. Why bother saying anything definitive when the fanbois are so deluded that they will believe what they want to believe? Paiturd trained them well.
So that's a "no" then?
I rest my case on fanbois. Poor babies are so insecure they have to find solace in a computer game and defend it like islamic terrorists.
 

NJClaw

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Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture
I really don't like the art direction and visual aspect in general. Do you guys eventally get used to it, or does it even become charming at some point ?
It definitely doesn't become charming, but bearable at best. The only cool aspects (IMHO, obviously) are monsters models:

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Does the game have some good looking locations (non-spoily screens are appreciated).
Definitely not. Once you have seen the "generic looking wilderness" and the "generic looking dungeon" areas, you have seen everything the game has to offer locations-wise. Every map is either a green-brown exterior area or a grey-brick dungeon.
There are some exceptions during the last chapters, but it feels more like a variation of the standard area then something unique.
 

Parabalus

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Yes my experience was that act 2 to end work on a global timer (starts when you get your barnory). There seem to be variation in when troll trouble actually starts, but it does not matter in the end as the timer for the whole game is global and starts when you get your barony.
'varnhold's vanishing' and 'the twice born warlord' always happen back to back, nomatter the speed at which you complete VV (it is the only exception in the game), but the global timer is unchanged i.e you'll get LOADS of downtime if your rush both acts to completion.

Is this confirmed then?

It would mean there is some merit to exploring the full region, instead of rushing Act 1 being the automatic best choice.

As far as curses are concerned I didn't look too much into it to be honest, as they aren't really that prohibitive since the in-game time spent doing MQ is actually quite a small portion of the game compared to building kingdom, there is a high chance you'll be idling in the capital and leveling advisors when they happen.

My issue is that I entered the House before getting An Ancient Curse, Part VII (50 days left), couldn't delay more since the events were destroying the kingdom. This led me to believe that there are/were some mixed timers.
 

pomenitul

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I really don't like the art direction and visual aspect in general. Do you guys eventally get used to it, or does it even become charming at some point ?

No. An evocative visual identity (not to be confused with grafixxx) is essential for a high-quality CRPG in my book, and PF:K simply doesn't deliver the goods.
 

Luckmann

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Played it already? Or still the usual?
Listen to fanbois? Lol! You make me laugh. What you shill for can do without my money, thanks.
So that's a no then?
I can say "yes" and the shills would still say I haven't. Like sjws, you can say a clear sky is blue and they will still claim you lied. Why bother saying anything definitive when the fanbois are so deluded that they will believe what they want to believe? Paiturd trained them well.
So that's a "no" then?
I rest my case on fanbois. Poor babies are so insecure they have to find solace in a computer game and defend it like islamic terrorists.
So....?
 

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Played it already? Or still the usual?
Listen to fanbois? Lol! You make me laugh. What you shill for can do without my money, thanks.
So that's a no then?
I can say "yes" and the shills would still say I haven't. Like sjws, you can say a clear sky is blue and they will still claim you lied. Why bother saying anything definitive when the fanbois are so deluded that they will believe what they want to believe? Paiturd trained them well.
So that's a "no" then?
I rest my case on fanbois. Poor babies are so insecure they have to find solace in a computer game and defend it like islamic terrorists.
Yes or no men don't hang the suspense.
 

Cael

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Played it already? Or still the usual?
Listen to fanbois? Lol! You make me laugh. What you shill for can do without my money, thanks.
So that's a no then?
I can say "yes" and the shills would still say I haven't. Like sjws, you can say a clear sky is blue and they will still claim you lied. Why bother saying anything definitive when the fanbois are so deluded that they will believe what they want to believe? Paiturd trained them well.
So that's a "no" then?
I rest my case on fanbois. Poor babies are so insecure they have to find solace in a computer game and defend it like islamic terrorists.
Yes or no men don't hang the suspense.
You're a barbarian. You guys hang anything. Start with that Arcanum gnome, willya?
 

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Played it already? Or still the usual?
Listen to fanbois? Lol! You make me laugh. What you shill for can do without my money, thanks.
So that's a no then?
I can say "yes" and the shills would still say I haven't. Like sjws, you can say a clear sky is blue and they will still claim you lied. Why bother saying anything definitive when the fanbois are so deluded that they will believe what they want to believe? Paiturd trained them well.
So that's a "no" then?
I rest my case on fanbois. Poor babies are so insecure they have to find solace in a computer game and defend it like islamic terrorists.
Yes or no men don't hang the suspense.
You're a barbarian. You guys hang anything. Start with that Arcanum gnome, willya?
Hang him? Just put 'em on a stool and have them die of falling from heights.
 

Cael

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Played it already? Or still the usual?
Listen to fanbois? Lol! You make me laugh. What you shill for can do without my money, thanks.
So that's a no then?
I can say "yes" and the shills would still say I haven't. Like sjws, you can say a clear sky is blue and they will still claim you lied. Why bother saying anything definitive when the fanbois are so deluded that they will believe what they want to believe? Paiturd trained them well.
So that's a "no" then?
I rest my case on fanbois. Poor babies are so insecure they have to find solace in a computer game and defend it like islamic terrorists.
Yes or no men don't hang the suspense.
You're a barbarian. You guys hang anything. Start with that Arcanum gnome, willya?
Hang him? Just put 'em on a stool and have them die of falling from heights.
Or use him as a stool. Whichever suits you.
 
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MajorMace

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I really don't like the art direction and visual aspect in general. Do you guys eventally get used to it, or does it even become charming at some point ?
It definitely doesn't become charming, but bearable at best. The only cool aspects (IMHO, obviously) are monsters models:

CBDBC59777C47F66A4E6B9F65F762D5CA0984D18


F199D820D524A6531A92F3CA82F4D283EE84A4B1
Does the game have some good looking locations (non-spoily screens are appreciated).
Definitely not. Once you have seen the "generic looking wilderness" and the "generic looking dungeon" areas, you have seen everything the game has to offer locations-wise. Every map is either a green-brown exterior area or a grey-brick dungeon.
There are some exceptions during the last chapters, but it feels more like a variation of the standard area then something unique.

These do look lovely actually. Thank you !
I really don't like the art direction and visual aspect in general. Do you guys eventally get used to it, or does it even become charming at some point ?

No. An evocative visual identity (not to be confused with grafixxx) is essential for a high-quality CRPG in my book, and PF:K simply doesn't deliver the goods.
I wouldn't consider it essential, but it plays a big part for me. I mean hey, at the end of the day video games are video games after all.

Thanks for the feedback my dudes. I'll give it a try I think. I've never been too much of a fan of pathfinder's madness of a ruleset but I only heard good things about the module and how they implemented it (besides the fact it takes 200 hours, meh).
 

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