Civilization II is the best strategy and might be the best game of all time

[Makabb]

Change my mind

 

[Citizen]

It's a very gud game, but im a graphicwhore so I onlyplay Test of Time now

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Civilization as a series is OK and pretty overrated in general. You don't need to change my mind, thanks.

 

[Rahdulan]

I have a confession to make: I played Civ2 first on PS1 and loved it.

 

[octavius]

It's very good until you master it. Then you realize every game you play of it will turn out pretty much the same.
Master of Orion is superior because it's much more unpredictable, with unbalanced factions, and what techs are available vary from game to game.

 

[Dux]

A game close to my heart, yet still so very far away.

GOG should get on it so I can be lectured by the blessed FMV council again.

 

[Hellraiser]

SMAC /thread

 

[octavius]

SMAC /thread

SMAC is superior to CIV 2 but still inferior to MOO.
That is, once you have mastered the game. I've completed all on highest difficulty, MOO even with all the races, but MOO is still the one where I feel I can still be surprised.

 

[Alpan]

Master of Orion is superior because ... what techs are available vary from game to game.

This is the genius of MOO1. I don't know if there are other games that have this feature.

 

[Wilian]

It most certainly is the Civ game I have fondest memories of.

 

[Sranchammer]

Behead those who do not say Alpha Centauri

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

It most certainly is the Civ game I have fondest memories of.

That's kind of an interesting way to look at it. Not necessarily what civ game is the best, but what you've got the best memories of. With that criteria I'd either go civ2 or 4 myself. I probably played more of 4 than any of the rest, but when I think about Civilization the civ2 soundtrack and sounds are what immediately come to mind.

 

[JarlFrank]

Civ 4 with Caveman 2 Cosmos is the best.

 

[axx]

To me Civ2 looks splendid as ever, those isometric graphics are like diamonds. The base game itself is splendid, then there's shitton of historic/fantasy/scifi scenarios over at scenario league. I probably most enjoyed scenarios from Spanish Civ2 site, now long defunct. ToT didn't appeal to me, dunno why.

 

[Lady_Error]

Ever since Civ 1 I wanted that clear top down strategic map instead of the isometric BS. The strategic view in Civ 5 gives exactly that and with all the expansions it is the one I like the most.

 

[McPlusle]

Vanilla Civilization II (fuck Test of Time, and fuck the Multiplayer Gold Edition AI) is topped only by Alpha Centauri. Too bad they stopped making Civ games after IV.

 

[Eirinjas]

Civ 3 for the expanded diplomacy and separate unit types.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

Civ 4 is clearly the best civ; there is no competition.

 

[Beastro]

It's very good until you master it. Then you realize every game you play of it will turn out pretty much the same.

A big problem is the AI, but the city limit too. It's a valid tactic to city spam if only to rob the AI of the ability to found more cities, or to give yourself a challenge and the AI a boost, limit yourself to half a dozen or so cities to allow the AI to expand greater.

The trouble I often ran into though was that the AI wouldn't really expand much on its own at all.

 

[Master]

This is the genius of MOO1. I don't know if there are other games that have this feature.

Sword of the Stars has it.

 

[Citizen]

Sword of the Stars has it.

I wish it had different combat. All the other aspects are great, even 3d star map doesn't feel out of place, but a slog real time combat is just

 

[Master]

I don't remember it being that much of a slog, but i haven't played it extensively.

 

[Citizen]

I don't remember it being that much of a slog, but i haven't played it extensively.

When you have a small active squad size or whatever it was called and a big fleet, so the battle becomes a skrimish of 3-4 ships from each side trying to snipe eachother from afar and reinforcements keeps coming and coming and this shit lasts for several turns

 

[index.php]

fuck the Multiplayer Gold Edition AI

This launcher fixes the AI among other things:
https://github.com/FoxAhead/Civ2-UI-Additions

Best version of the game, IMO.

 

[Alistair]

I always found the series, especially the first few entries, to be too simplistic for my taste with not enough depth within any of its available categories to intrigue me but not simplistic enough to be enjoyed in small playthroughs like how Settlers or Colonialization was. Probably because they tried tackling multiple scenarios and gameplay mechanics, but never truly expanded in anyone, to give in to the illusion.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess,