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HITMAN, the new episodic Hitman - GOTY Edition
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I am advocating that you dumbfucks learn to read.
fantadomat
Arcane
Episodic content is shit and bad for everyone! It sells poorly and people don''t even bother playing later episodes.
unfairlight
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Cool. I can spend another 15 hours on that map and master it. I already spent 15h on Sapienza when it was free because it's so detailed.
LESS T_T
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sullynathan
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I haven't even bought the game, yet I am being given most of the content. By this rate, the full game will be available to me by next year. What a time to be alive.
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Bocian
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So, everyone who played pre-DLC era full release games before digital sales were so widespread is an entitled shitstain? If someone's paying for a game (or anything else) with real money, it's their goddamn right to have some expectations.
"I'm paying for a dinner somewhere. In a span of a few hours I receive the order "in episodes" - a steak first, the potatoes an hour later, and vegetables another hour later. But I don't complain because I'm not an entitled shitstain and the cooks aren't my slaves, besides I'm an old man already and I eat very slowly so it suits me. That's why I should endorse and support this form of serving food no matter the common sense". Great logic on your side here. I thought you're a bit more reasonable than that.
LESS T_T
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Not in exhaustive depth, but I'll try to touch on it a bit.
HITMAN™ is certainly a stealth game first, and that's the "best" way to play it, but when things go wrong: first, it's possible to escape and get a disguise to lose heat; and second, I remember it being very engaging to fight enemies, as you're always outnumbered and trying to escape, and your character is by no means invulnerable, yet he is the toughest dude around and can certainly make a go of it against several enemies at once. Plus there is a large variety of weapons with satisfying feedback. So you're committing a crime, you're observed, a guy starts a fight, then if it's loud more guys come, you have to fight your way to a place of safety and then keep hidden long enough or get disguised quickly enough to get out of there in one piece.
In other words, violence and stealth have a nice balance as tools and both are useful (though full Rambo is rarely viable).
To be honest, I'm usually going for "ghost" type runs so I avoid the combat generally, but what is there is good and it works.
Ah, OK, so it's certainly a lot more stealth-based than action but direct combat is effective enough to feel satisfying. The Outer Worlds doesn't seem to be like that though and I reckon that's something easier to implement in a third-person game (not sure what I'm basing this on; kind of just going off of intuition)
oldbonebrown
Arcane
Does anyone play this with the opportunity highlighters and batvision turned off?
These two makes the game seem dumb - but I can't imagine playing without them. It's already such a chore when starting a new mission to familiarize with the oversized maps.
These two makes the game seem dumb - but I can't imagine playing without them. It's already such a chore when starting a new mission to familiarize with the oversized maps.
I turn them off and on as I learn the maps.
i played everything from hitman 1 to 2 without any hints/maps/whatsoever.
the levels are memorizeable very easily as most of them are well laid and have quite alot of signs and landmarks
oldbonebrown
Arcane
Aight.
For me the fun with this game really got going once I had roughly learned the maps. The initial mission on each map was mostly a drag. I found there to be not enough to do in the moment to moment gameplay to be engaging - until I knew the map well enough to attempt it with some speed.
Just uninstall. It is a shit series that peaked with Blood Money which was 'ok'. Anyone who defends this game has shit taste. It is a gamey console game, it is not a decent stealth experience, or assassin experience, or an FPS experience. It weaves its way through each of those genres without doing a good job of any of them. Whatever type of gameplay you want, you can get better in some other game.
Also turning the noob-o-vision off doesn't improve anything or make you have to learn anything interesting. It just means you have to waste your time walking around everywhere and making a mental note of the locations of the several items you can use to kill the target. It annoys me people would support this shit.
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i think kinda like some blood money level, first 30 minutes of each level i just go around and memorize the map, then reload and start formulating my murder plan after i become at least familiar with the layout (just layout, not details like disguise locations, guards / people with disguise that are isolated, items, etc.)
for first try, i usually go with the straightest possible method i find. it is sometimes the scripted events, sometimes not, but the first try of the level, i learn more about the details, such as disguises, etc, and second try onwards i try to get the scripted kills. after several times, i turn on the challenge hints to get the rest of the challenges i didn't discover.
You need to listen to the dialog and read the intel to figure out opportunities without guidance. For me that's a big part of the fun of the game, but if you don't like it and want to focus on stealth alone then maybe leave the guides on. It depends on the player.
Hitman is the best series/franchise that's around. Only lapse in judgement was absolution, but I enjoyed it anyway.
It is not a stealth game, as it stands now it is a hitman game, because there is only death to spies which does the same i guess. Never really got into death to spies/alekhine's gun because the one that I tried made me start in bumfuck nowhere without an easy introduction. I know i am bad. save it.
Should I give death to spies/alekhines gun a try?
It is a stealth game, the very first mission has you creeping through a mansion while the owner is home with about 20 bodyguards. It is just a bad version of it. The whole thing is dumb, and is nothing like a hitman too. It is super goofy and gamey. Characters walk the exact same set of waypoints constantly, repeating the exact same conversations and actions. All you need to do is watch what they do, then go to one of the waypoints and gank them with one of only several options. You can shoot a guy in the face in a hotel or whatever, and everyone continues like nothing happened, as long as you change clothes. You have a ticket tout who you need to get a ticket from, and there is a ho hum convenient bathroom right next to him, turn the tap on and he will investigate. Why? And they wont see you in the mirror creeping up behind them. There are massive chests all over the place that fit 2 bodies inside. You can walk right in front of a guy with a gun pointing at him but he can't see you because you are 20 feet away from him and his reaction range is 15 feet. And even if you walk past him even closer, he goes HUH?! but takes several seconds to react so you can just walk next to a wall and you are safe.
They seem determined to stop you from killing people with guns and stabbings and garrote like you could in other games, instead they want to pretend like the game has evolved into something more intellectual and less violent. So instead of finding a knife on a table and clicking it on the bad guy, you find a wrench on a table and click it on the chandelier above the bad guy. Or you find a turbo boost chip and you click it on the car the guy is driving instead. It is all the same shit. If anything it is less intense than knifing someone and trying to get away without being spotted. The series hasn't evolved at all since the 90s. It is still goofy, it now just has swanky graphics and bigger maps which do nothing but make you walk further. It is basically just a memory game and a heavy dose of repetition. We could have much better games if people stopped hyping shit ones.
They seem determined to stop you from killing people with guns and stabbings and garrote like you could in other games, instead they want to pretend like the game has evolved into something more intellectual and less violent. So instead of finding a knife on a table and clicking it on the bad guy, you find a wrench on a table and click it on the chandelier above the bad guy. Or you find a turbo boost chip and you click it on the car the guy is driving instead. It is all the same shit. If anything it is less intense than knifing someone and trying to get away without being spotted. The series hasn't evolved at all since the 90s. It is still goofy, it now just has swanky graphics and bigger maps which do nothing but make you walk further. It is basically just a memory game and a heavy dose of repetition. We could have much better games if people stopped hyping shit ones.
Wow, it's a game! Revolutionary thinking.
It actually is if you understand my point. My point is that if you are making it 'gamey', then make it fun. Give me jetpacks and lazer trip bombs and rubber chickens with explosives inside. Games like No One Lives Forever understood this. Gamey games should be all about fun. Or if you want it to be realistic and more like a simulation, then don't let 100 people walk into my electric puddle, or me put vomit juice in a VIP's drink who runs to the bathroom and his bodyguard stands outside uninterested. Make it a simulation that is realistic and intense, or make it a game that is fun. Currently it is neither.
SwiftCrack
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