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Gears of War 5 - now a tedious drama with female protagonist

orcinator

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Yeah, not all games are supposed to be holy high brow, sometimes a game is an action movie: play, have a good evening and move on.

Bombastic post-MW cutscene shooters are perfect for this; as long as you don't buy full price, it's hard to be disappointed especially considering it's part of the pretty limited family of no-questions-asked split-screen coop shooters on PC.

I realise a YouTuber or "gaming journalism" will get more to talk about and more clicks from fucktards 12-yo if he complains about how IT'S-ALWAYS-THE-SAME but oxygen thieves shouldn't dictate your purchases.


Well you see the problem with "Bombastic post-MW cutscene shooters" is that the gameplay is trash and the cutscenes can be watched on youtube for free (and you can even skip and fast forward through them unlike the real game).
 

oldbonebrown

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Another crowbcat video about trivialities that have zero impact on gameplay.

Gears 5 sounds better btw. 2 is too loud.

That was his worst and most cherrypicked video, he complains about not having to escort survivors in DR4 but he never mentions how terrible the survivors' AI in DR1 was. Then the rest of the video is about him grabbing useless stuff on the floor.

The first Dead Rising is the worst - torturous AI, low zombie count, few weapons/vehicles, no multiplayer - the game is a draft for the superior sequels. Dead Rising fans love to bring revisionism and pretend the escort missions were fine.

The first Dead Rising is one of the best action games I have ever played - the sequel improved almost nothing and took major steps away from what made the first game special.
I have not tried 3 or 4, because 2 and Off the Record were already offensively mediocre to me. So mediocre that I have played through both several times just to explore my anger at them. A proper video on why would have to go much further into "trivialities" than the crowbcat video did, because much of what makes DR2 so awful is in how it is slightly worse in almost all of the little details that make up the whole.

Removing all the challenge out of rescuing survivors is a more obvious problem of than most - to me the survivor AI in the original is great fun and it had a very fitting place in a game with a focus on time management. Sure it has a lot of quirks in its dumbness, but it is an obstacle can be learned and mastered. Herding the survivors in the direction that you want them to go does get hectic and hard, but in my experience it is ultimately down to your skill.
There is room for expanding the experience, but any change to make the survivors smarter would have to be compensated in the other direction somehow to add back any lost complexity. Because the fun is in how chaotic it is to have to constantly nudge them while also making good time and keeping up with the rest of the game.

As for low zombie count I wonder what area it is that you think suffers from this? The number of zombies seems very adequate for your capabilities in the game. The horde do get a bit spotty sometimes in the Maintenance Tunnels, and while that is a problem it impacts the game very little since it is not an area that you spend a lot of time in.
One related thing that the sequel did improve was that it more reliably kept track of when you had cleared out an area, the original has a tendency to spawn in new zombies behind your back. If this was improved then there would be room to add in more zombies as well as to not make the game easier.

As for picking up useless stuff from the floor I don't agree at all with them being useless in the first game, they are made useless in the sequel by lowering the damage many common items do and shifting the focus towards the awful combo weapons.
When playing the original for the first time you are often put in situations where you are forced to make do with whatever trash you find lying about. Exploring what trash you can use effectively in hectic situations is fun, as is just exploring the dry humour of killing zombies with everyday objects.
It is the case that once you learn the map much of the available arsenal does become less useful. While it is far from the problem of how much the combo weapons dominate the sequel, I find that the availability of overpowered boss weapons especially make the game less fun. Here is another case where I think the game could be improved, I believe it would be great fun if the game had no weapon respawns whatsoever other than for the most basic trash items.
This would put even more focus on having to master the toolbox that is the mall, knowing where everything is and planning for how to best use them throughout the game.

I have no idea how you can think that there being too few weapons is a problem. Adding more would be a plus as long an they fit in both in balance and in flavour - but there are loads of items as it is. I don't know where you would fit in more vehicles, the nature of the game makes enlarging the map thoughtlessly like in DR2 a dumb idea.

If I put my wild imagination to work I could dream of a Dead Rising with good multiplayer, but in reality I think it would only make it a less focused experience where you just dilly dally around in a wacky sandbox.
 

DalekFlay

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The first Dead Rising is one of the best action games I have ever played - the sequel improved almost nothing and took major steps away from what made the first game special.

Oh it was "special" alright...

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Alienman

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Tried it for about an hour or so, but I just can't stand the Firefly™ type of humor. Nothing is taken seriously at all. City under attack, thousands dead - jokes about it. Instead of people actually talking like people it's all sarcasm. Gameplay is Gears 4, which I also tried on gamepass but never finished.
 

Daemongar

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Codex Year of the Donut
I'll probably never play this, but why does the main char look so much like the main char from Mass Effect: Andromeda?
 

YldriE

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The only Gears i played was the original and thought was very poor. Is this one better?
It's definitely a series that got better and better with time, especially if you played the original game and not the remaster. The colors are washed out, aiming is shoddy, enemies take mountains of lead to die even on easy, the levels routinely force instafail scripted events down your throat, cutscenes have very clumsy cinematography and drag on, I could go on. Gears of War 2 is already a huge improvement.

Of course we're still talking about formulaic cover shooters, which is to be expected since it more or less refined and popularised all the modern ropes of the genre, so if that's the very genre that you don't like, there is no way out of it.
 

Papa Môlé

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Cant wait till they get some ex-mma woman to play this character in the film adaptation and she gets fired making some typical meathead remarks on the twatter and you all suddenly jump to her defense against ebul cancel culture.
 
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Cant wait till they get some ex-mma woman to play this character in the film adaptation and she gets fired making some typical meathead remarks on the twatter and you all suddenly jump to her defense against ebul cancel culture.
nooo you can't oppose people being fired for stating opinions that are identical to other people who didn't get fired noooooooo stop having principles and morals, engage in the gay sex and pedophilia like papa mole, a superior leftist bigbrain!
 
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Tried this on gamepass, runs like butter on max settings (4k60fps, no drops) and looks pretty good. I haven't played a Gears game since the first one all those years ago. It's still railroaded popamole, but maybe I'll trudge through the awful campaign to pretend to justify spending money on a computer upgrade.

:despair:
 

ekrolo2

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Tried this on gamepass, runs like butter on max settings (4k60fps, no drops) and looks pretty good. I haven't played a Gears game since the first one all those years ago. It's still railroaded popamole, but maybe I'll trudge through the awful campaign to pretend to justify spending money on a computer upgrade.

:despair:
Or you could find something not shit to justify the purchase with? Or be like me and spend lots of money in a new rig and the first thing you try it out on is euro jank from 2007.
 

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