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Imagine being a console fanboy, period.
Imagine being a fanboy for a specific console company on a largely PC enthusiast forum.
So all this means that PS5 will be like a high end PC during time of release
Nope. You get what you pay for.
But we don't know the price yet.
So all this means that PS5 will be like a high end PC during time of release
Nope. You get what you pay for.
But we don't know the price yet.
Whatever the price is, the hardware you'll get will be a bit cheaper than similar PC hardware due to mass production and perhaps some subsidizing. For example, if it's $399 you might get $479 worth of PC hardware. Our disagreement lies in the fact that you think you'll pay $399 or $499 and get $800 worth of PC hardware or more.
If the rumored specs are true I can't see how the consoles will cost less than 500$ for the base models. AMD is selling just the CPU for minimum 200$ if they target 20% profit margin (half of want they say is the goal with Zen).
If the rumored specs are true I can't see how the consoles will cost less than 500$ for the base models. AMD is selling just the CPU for minimum 200$ if they target 20% profit margin (half of want they say is the goal with Zen).
While they are saying it will be am 8-core "Zen2" processor that doesn't mean it will flat-out be a Ryzen 3700 or whatever. It will be a cut down version of that, in several ways, to make it more affordable for a $400-500 box.
That's not really me mocking it though, because as said above due to several factors it will perform above its weight. It's just silly to expect a 3700 Ryzen and 5700 Radeon in a likely $399 box.
Is Soulburner the only one in this thread that understand how consoles work? Additional performance comes from low level optimizations which is not available on PC, and when the hardware pretty match equals out in price range, the optimization on console puts it further apart from PC.
Creation of the new APU, CPU + GPU will cost Sony 200$ that equals out or beats current Ryzen 3600 and Radeon 5700, a 5700 alone costs 350$.
Historicaly that was not possible, because the hardware advancement were huge yearly, but we live in a time where CPU advancement came to a halt and GPU are much much lower than what they used to be.
It's the combination of all those factors that creates the 'next-gen' in such favourable light vs PC.
I don't realy care about consoles, I always owned a PC first, but i'm just stating the obvious facts, times are changing.
That's why a PS5 for 500$ will be like a PC with hardware for 800$ but with the optimizations that it provides, the effective power will be like a PC for 1500$, because in PC diminshing returns in current era in high end are awfull (and they will be even higher with every year), and for little gain in performance you have to pay A LOT.
Also it seems that PS5 will have better ray tracing than current GPUs, AMD's implementation is different than Nvidia's and will be part of the architecture in terms of pipelines and not this chunk in the corner that Nvidia offers, and we know that Ray tracing brings nvidia GPUs to a halt, so if AMD will have a superior ray tracing on consoles, it will add to the performance.
If the rumored specs are true I can't see how the consoles will cost less than 500$ for the base models. AMD is selling just the CPU for minimum 200$ if they target 20% profit margin (half of want they say is the goal with Zen).
While they are saying it will be am 8-core "Zen2" processor that doesn't mean it will flat-out be a Ryzen 3700 or whatever. It will be a cut down version of that, in several ways, to make it more affordable for a $400-500 box.
It was this time that essentially gave birth to the 'console optimizations' myth
Multiplatform development is now the rule
It is physically impossible
I regret buying PS4, that'll be the last console I bought probably.
Should've wasted that money on booze instead...
Today 90% of the "console optimizations" is just lower settings. XBOX is using win 10 ffs, whatever low level API optimization devs are doing it's not console specific.
I think people can't grasp the point that there will be nothing special in the hardware inside the new consoles. It's not like they will use different instruction sets, even the APIs are the same. Vulkan and DX12 are the future on desktop, it's just that nvidia don't want to move away from DX11 for now.
I think people can't grasp the point that there will be nothing special in the hardware inside the new consoles
This thread is an endless circlejerk until they annouce specs. If you believe they're going to put a $1,000+ PC into a $400 console then okay, I really doubt it, but none of us really know until the specs are announced.