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Battlefield 1 - set in World War 1

DayofBlow

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The answer was 12,000,000 people mobilised. 2k+ men for every single vagina. There's not a word to describe how gross that exaggeration is. There's no respect, guy. You're talking about the WW1 game that didn't have the French and the Russians in it at launch. Two of the great powers that were core participants in WW1. Oh, but it stealth had the french because the posterboy was wearing a french uniform because US black's were passed over to French command by the Americans. So he doubles for burgers and frogs. Yay.

So not only did they completely fuck up respecting the basics of the war, stuff that's taught in barebones high school classes like the Brusilov offensive, the whole "exploring the lesser known parts of WW1" was bullshit too. Harlem Globetrotter was dogshit generic western front stuff, how the fuck could Italy be considered less known, and the most niche was a Lawrence of Arabia larp starring a Bedouin tourist ad that gets yeeted by adblock. They are the most stock WW1 settings, outside of the ones that got shitcanned, only they dug out the diversity checklist for the participants in them. Harlem Hellfighters, Women's Battalion of Death, aren't the untold important stories of WW1. They're the trivia footnotes of 2 of the biggest fronts of the war. What makes them different from the 200 other battalions and divisions in the war? Well they have melanin or have 2 X chromosomes. Wow. Such difference.

Y'know what is the untold part of WW1? The significant stories that aren't ever given spotlight? Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria. The entire Balkan campaign, nations that had 100000s of their men die in the war on either side. There's your important tales not yet given their due. You wanna talk minorities, how about Dice giving the same German barks for Austria-Hungary that Germany has. AH, the most ethnically diverse power, half their army was Hungarians, it's in the freaking name, Austria-Hungary, not to mention the slavs like the Slovenes and Croats. How was this diversity represented? Nah bruh, they all German, der wiener scnitzel ist gut ja?

So important parts of the war, nixed until DLC, the (actually important to WW1) diversity of the euros fighting in the war, their deaths numbering in 100s of thousands, non-existant, the less popularised but still important fronts of the war, not acknowledged, and the diversity they thumped their chests for amounts to grossly overrepresenting a specific type of wallpaper in the biggest fronts of the war. Game ain't shit. (And the campaign is so fucking terrible it makes BF4's look great.)
 

Sodafish

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The answer was 12,000,000 people mobilised. 2k+ men for every single vagina

And I have read that the total numer of troops that fought in the war was 70 million. Troop deaths vary between 8-15 million depending on sources, with another 21 million wounded.

But lol breh women were, like, totally side-by-side with those guys, and if you disagree you're a manchild incel muhsoggynist.
 

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I've always heard the concept of special forces as we know it today was born in WW2 with the British Commandos, but weren't WW1 groups like the German Stormtroopers, Italian Arditi and Austrian Jagdkommandos also special forces in a way? Wikipedia says these shock troops pioneered small unit tactics and advanced infiltration tactics as never seen before. Then why is it WW2 Commandos that are acknowledged as first modern special forces and not these?
 

Spectacle

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While the various WW1 shock troops had specialized training and equipment, their missions were generally conventional, i.e. attacking enemy positions with the goal of driving them out and capturing ground.

It wasn't until WW2 that we see units formed specifically for doing special operations.
 

Silva

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While the various WW1 shock troops had specialized training and equipment, their missions were generally conventional, i.e. attacking enemy positions with the goal of driving them out and capturing ground.

It wasn't until WW2 that we see units formed specifically for doing special operations.
Hmm, I think I get it now, thanks. Even if what they did was unconvention for the mass-maneuvered armies of the time (small units, frog-leaping fireteams, NCO initiative, etc) it became default for modern conventional units, right?

The only thing they did that seems special even by today standards would be the behind enemy lines operating, right? EDIT: thinking again, even this seems diferent from the kind of behind enemy lines operations that modern spec forces conduct, as the later are trained to do it for long distances and periods, and sometimes clandestinely, while shock troops were followed by regular troops and were thus more limited in range.
 
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Silva

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Found this. Seems a very good explanation of their functioning. If only I could understand half of what the German narrator says. Hehe

 

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