The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[Heroic Liberator]

Do you guys think anyone at Obsidian considers that this might be a Pillars1 moment, and actually try to evaluate what they've done?

The thing with that is they didn't need to convince the vast majority of the playerbase of the "merits" of this genre. They already knew what they were going into and knew that they like it. PoE didn't have this advantage, it had to show the value of isometric RPGs and it failed to do that, as exemplified by the abysmal sales of both White March and PoE2.

This is at the end of the day a game for mass consumption meant to be enjoyed by casuals regardless of one's genre preferences.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

It’s the biggest failure in fuckin’ years

You guys are delusional if you really think this. It's insanely popular with normies.

 

[Lacrymas]

This is at the end of the day a game for mass consumption meant to be enjoyed by casuals regardless of one's genre preferences.

I wouldn't say regardless of them, but it is a genre that is currently popular and one that is basically monopolized by Bethesda. The normies who play this game don't compare it to the best of gaming, but only to Bethesda's excretions, so it seems to them like the height of creativity. The commercial success of this game (if it's true) doesn't surprise me.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

It’s the biggest failure in fuckin’ years

You guys are delusional if you really think this. It's insanely popular with normies.

Sadly.

Edit: Nano, this only encourages the production of more video games in the same vein. If you plan on gobbling this sort of shit up like a good boy, then be my guest.

 

[cvv]

FNV/F3>F4>TOW.

FNV >>>>>>>>>>>>> F4/TOW >>>>>>> F3

I don't know. The actual gameplay in FNV sucked pretty badly (similarly to F3, but with worse exploration).
So I'd say FNV, F4 and TOW are all pretty close, each on its own merits. With F3 lagging behind.

Yesterday I started AND ended a new NV plathrough. Based on this unfortunately I have to report the following:

>>>>>>>>>>>> FNV/F4/F3>>>>>>>>>random Teletubbies MMO game>>>>TOW

Really, while I love the FNV world and vibe the actual gameplay is fucking painful today. I had to wrap it up after like 6 hours, I couldn't go on. Same for F3 ofc. In comparison F4 writing is completely retarded but the gameplay is way more bearable so it's a wash. Also I'd rather play a Teletubbies game than poison my brain with TOW's low-level woke toxic sludge.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Like frajaq points out, the market for this sort of game was open for the taking. Marketing was also pretty good with some great trailers. Last but not least, refreshingly honest and no-bullshit communication with the fanbase by Tim&Leon certainly helped.

lol this isn't what you were saying a week and a half ago https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...g-the-outer-worlds.130315/page-2#post-6362170

(they did supercharge the marketing in the final week though so you've got that)

Yes, but I never said it's going to flop, just that hype has significantly dropped from its colossal early levels. It was always going to be hit, especially being on Game Pass. Big question is if it's a massive hit, one that would warrant a bag of gold from uncle Gates to make a superior sequel for next-gen consoles. With all their competition seemingly determined to continually shoot themselves in the foot and no similar games in sight, the opportunity was there.

 

[Junmarko]

Based on this unfortunately I have to report the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>> FNV/F4/F3>>>>>>>>>

So you're on to Fallout 4 next then?

 

[TheEntitledOne]

So, how woke is this game? I didn't remove it from inventory, not sure if it is worth the install.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Resolved the mystery of why the colours in this game are a mess (taken from polygon)

This is not to say that Obsidian hasn’t considered accessibility. The game works with the Xbox Adaptive Controller, for instance. There’s no colorblind mode, but that’s only because Tim Cain — one of the game’s creators, and one of the folks behind the original Fallout — is completely colorblind and built the game from the ground up to meet his needs.

 

[Steamboat Willie]

So, how woke is this game? I didn't remove it from inventory, not sure if it is worth the install.

It's Blue Checkmark: The Game.

 

[Daedalos]

Obsidian sitting on a winning ticket, since Beth dropped the ball with F76. Even if the game is painfully medicore and disappointing, it is and gonna be well received by the general audience.

Anyway, there's 1 quest I liked in Byzantium

Spoiler

The Retirement Center quest lol. Thought it was particularly dark and grim, seeing all the retired dudes just going into the meatgrinder,
Wouldn't be surprised if Leonard designed that quest and not Tim

 

[cvv]

Based on this unfortunately I have to report the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>> FNV/F4/F3>>>>>>>>>

So you're on to Fallout 4 next then?

God no, I'd rather change my avatar to yours.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Jesus. Some asshole on reddit was trying to convince me how EA is less profitable for Steam than Obsidian is for Epic. I'm escaping back here to regain my sanity points (which is like escaping a pit by jumping in to a well).

 

[Junmarko]

Beth dropped the ball with F76.

I like how they think they even had a chance with 76 to begin with.

God no, I'd rather change my avatar to yours.

Go on then.

 

[cvv]

Beth dropped the ball with F76.

I like how they think they even had a chance with 76 to begin with.

God no, I'd rather change my avatar to yours.

Go on then.

Um, on second thought...

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Resolved the mystery of why the colours in this game are a mess (taken from polygon)

Jesus that explains so much. I knew there was something wrong with this game. There you go, another example of inclusive-first design helping the bottom line for the majority.

 

[fantadomat]

And i can smell your obsession with getting re-owned and those MS millions. I don't blame you mate,i too would have shilled this garbage if a few millions were at stake.

Started your 3rd playthrough yet?

Do i get money if i say yes?

 

[Shadenuat]

So, how woke is this game? I didn't remove it from inventory, not sure if it is worth the install.

moderately, not-so-subtle

they won't hit on you bioware style, but most quest givers/leaders are women (also old women, rough women with scars, women of different race and color), men are grunts/incompetent/shallowly written/bandits/crazies, whoever is not is probably an adorable scientist or is a secondary npc.

 

[Lacrymas]

Jesus that explains so much. I knew there was something wrong with this game. There you go, another example of inclusive-first design helping the bottom line for the majority.

Be grateful it isn't full of any of his other ...needs.

 

[toro]

Resolved the mystery of why the colours in this game are a mess (taken from polygon)

This is not to say that Obsidian hasn’t considered accessibility. The game works with the Xbox Adaptive Controller, for instance. There’s no colorblind mode, but that’s only because Tim Cain — one of the game’s creators, and one of the folks behind the original Fallout — is completely colorblind and built the game from the ground up to meet his needs.

He actually said this in one interview but I will not bother to search for it. It didn't appear so important at the time.

Anyway, it's a dick move. If the guy went blind from so much dick then he should retire instead of forcing his gay vision on everyone.

 

[Riddler]

Do you guys think anyone at Obsidian considers that this might be a Pillars1 moment, and actually try to evaluate what they've done?

The thing with that is they didn't need to convince the vast majority of the playerbase of the "merits" of this genre. They already knew what they were going into and knew they like it. PoE didn't have this advantage, it had to show the value of isometric RPGs to a new audience and it failed to do that, as exemplified by the abysmal sales of both White March and PoE2.

It was both a commercial and critical success due to market factors and not by the merits of the game itself and I would argue that much the same thing is happening here.

Bethesda has shit the bed in multiple ways and left folk both angry and jonsing for a single player "open world" game.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Fluent's sole contribution to codex lately is literally shitting all over the place. What happened bro? You finally snapped? Used to see quality threads from you.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Did you know Thailand was once a mighty empire?

I only know of Thailand's weird sex scene and it's where you fight Sagat and M. Bison in Street Fighter 2.

 

[Lacrymas]

It was both a commercial and critical success due to market factors and not by the merits of the game itself and I would argue that much the same thing is happening here.

But the commercial and critical success was only based on the first few hours of the game, word of mouth and indeed market factors. It obviously failed to retain fans however, i.e. it failed to convince anyone of its merits. This game will have DLC and we'll see if it's the same thing, but I don't think so.

 

[toro]

Used to see quality threads from you.

Divide by zero. Doesn't compute.