They try and give a minor amount of grey to The Board (like they did Caesar's Legion) by introducing a problem that maybe sorta justifies their actions near the end. However it still leads to a pretty "evil" ending. There is definitely a lot of grey in aggressively fighting The Board though, because you're hurting a lot of "little people" who aren't evil. It's a relatively good encapsulation of the issues with revolution/"terrorism" as a way to fight authoritarian governments.
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The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony
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They try and give a minor amount of grey to The Board (like they did Caesar's Legion) by introducing a problem that maybe sorta justifies their actions near the end. However it still leads to a pretty "evil" ending. There is definitely a lot of grey in aggressively fighting The Board though, because you're hurting a lot of "little people" who aren't evil. It's a relatively good encapsulation of the issues with revolution/"terrorism" as a way to fight authoritarian governments.
fantadomat
Arcane
the fuck i care about bureaucrats,i just killed everything that i didn't liked lol...like everyone in byzantium city. The little people could suck on my nuts lol,get strong or die from starvation faggots
! Shame i couldn't kill the retarded scientist too!
Heroic Liberator
Arcane
Praotec would be proud.the fuck i care about bureaucrats,i just killed everything that i didn't liked lol...like everyone in byzantium city. The little people could suck on my nuts lol,get strong or die from starvation faggots
This is some quality first grade dark humour right here. I actually chuckled.
Heroic Liberator
Arcane
Just doing my duty, tovarășe.
fantadomat
Arcane
I agree,with a communist friend of mine we like to half-joke that if anyone of us comes in to power,will reopen the holiday House of Belene and send the other in there
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I got bored and decided to do a video on Supernova run. It's like a quasi-Speedrun to see how the game reacts to 'Pro-Board' actions.
Not much to say on Edgewater conflict. Yeah you should just get past it pretty quickly, but in Supernova companions permanently dies so the Geothermal Plant can get dicey if you don't have a good weapon.
Finish the Geothermal plant and it gets easier from there. Groundsbreaker is basically non-combat EXP shower that pushes you 4-5 levels and pushes around 4000 bits to your wallet for clicking the right options. Ridiculous. In less than half an hour, we can head to Byzantium and enjoy a high-level hand-placed loot.
Ah, Byzantium home of the Level 21 hand-placed Plasma Rifle.
The Akande hit job is hilarious.
Tell the second hitman you want to listen to the victim first - she will offer a bribe.
Don't convince him to take it and tell him you want to let her live.
Now he will turn violent - kill him.
Intimidate the poor lady for 2000 bits.
Then pickpocket her for another 2000 bits.
There's reactivity to this:
If you do not let her talk, you cannot intimidate her to be paid off, and she only carries 2000 bits in her pocket.
But if you let her make that offer, the intimidate option will appear, netting you an easy 2000 bits.
Then you can pickpocket her for another 2000 bits.
Then kill her so Akande pays you well.
Once we stop laughing at the monitor, fast travel back to the Unreliable, switch to Parvati and Felix to listen to Felix's butthurt.
Akande is pleased and rewards you handsomely. Now she wants us to plant a tracking signal on Phineas' terminal - so it's off to his secret lab.
Not much to say on Edgewater conflict. Yeah you should just get past it pretty quickly, but in Supernova companions permanently dies so the Geothermal Plant can get dicey if you don't have a good weapon.
Finish the Geothermal plant and it gets easier from there. Groundsbreaker is basically non-combat EXP shower that pushes you 4-5 levels and pushes around 4000 bits to your wallet for clicking the right options. Ridiculous. In less than half an hour, we can head to Byzantium and enjoy a high-level hand-placed loot.
Ah, Byzantium home of the Level 21 hand-placed Plasma Rifle.
The Akande hit job is hilarious.
Tell the second hitman you want to listen to the victim first - she will offer a bribe.
Don't convince him to take it and tell him you want to let her live.
Now he will turn violent - kill him.
Intimidate the poor lady for 2000 bits.
Then pickpocket her for another 2000 bits.
There's reactivity to this:
If you do not let her talk, you cannot intimidate her to be paid off, and she only carries 2000 bits in her pocket.
But if you let her make that offer, the intimidate option will appear, netting you an easy 2000 bits.
Then you can pickpocket her for another 2000 bits.
Then kill her so Akande pays you well.
Once we stop laughing at the monitor, fast travel back to the Unreliable, switch to Parvati and Felix to listen to Felix's butthurt.
Akande is pleased and rewards you handsomely. Now she wants us to plant a tracking signal on Phineas' terminal - so it's off to his secret lab.
fantadomat
Arcane
Woah,amazing,that much money woahh man,you are the best!
Nigga please,it is not like leaving the first zone i didn't have 30,000 floppy discs! It would have meant something if you buy something trough out the game,but that is not the case. Money are useless in this game.
My first run was a pro-Board one, with me being ruthlessly selfish. It had some fun moments like the one you describe, but overall I'd call it a meh playstyle. Playing the second time as a pirate style freedom fighter, it is VERY obvious that's how the game was designed to be played primarily.
Its not like game is not establishing that good doctor is good and corps are bad in f... intro of the game Comrade, of course you can help the board but only if you one of those people whose only motivation is profit for any cost and psychopath with little personal honor to boot cause the first thing those (((scum))) order you to do is
to send you to assassinate someone whose only crime was to know too much about board dirty business and the next one is to kill the people who sheltered and aided you (sure they benefited from your actions too but its OK since they could send one of theirs to do it also and you were technically speaking outlaw then) when you needed it most.
Its all pointless cause game is decent shooter and exploration game but most of good things in story is buried under tones of SJW crap with every male here either incompetent, weak and/or evil and every female intended by game to be better in their job and sporting dyke and danger hair cut despite that that their own art style (which I do love btw) show them wearing long Victorian style haircut, I mostly now hunting for my unique gun and weapons pieces to be honest at the moment, with no interest in story now what a let-down not only after Fallouts, New Vegas but even Tyranny Comrade You cant even declare yourself the new Caesar here Comrade.
Yeah, the Board doesn't seem to exude competence and the pay is somewhat meager.
You'd think you'll get access to special Board Exclusive gear when Akande starts to like you better - but it's the same generic high tier gear and mods locked behind faction rep.
Although I love the fact that Vicar is very agreeable to whatever the Board is doing prior to his drug trip and his reaction to Byzantium is one of awe and wonder in contrast to Felix's 'FUCK CAPITALISM, BRO' whiney stance.
LudensCogitet
Learned
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Just finished the game.
After Monarch everything is clearly rushed to the extreme.
After Monarch everything is clearly rushed to the extreme.
Sneak into the Earth minister guy's house and demand chemicals and within 4 dialogue options he is giving you his personal security key card to his office. Wah?
Always an incredibly easy way to dialogue your way through any situation in a few clicks if you've invested in the social skills.
Except for 4 guards at Phineas' lab that are always hostile and 2 robots on the Hope I literally walked through the whole game after reaching Byzantium.
MSI and people from the Groundbreaker helped me in the prison, but I was in disguise the whole time, so they were just shooting guards while I walked by with 0 agro.
With companion bonuses, perks, and a few different suits I basically had 100 science, persuade, hack, and lockpick. I disabled the last boss and killed the corporate woman with one shot.
Always an incredibly easy way to dialogue your way through any situation in a few clicks if you've invested in the social skills.
Except for 4 guards at Phineas' lab that are always hostile and 2 robots on the Hope I literally walked through the whole game after reaching Byzantium.
MSI and people from the Groundbreaker helped me in the prison, but I was in disguise the whole time, so they were just shooting guards while I walked by with 0 agro.
With companion bonuses, perks, and a few different suits I basically had 100 science, persuade, hack, and lockpick. I disabled the last boss and killed the corporate woman with one shot.
Danikas
Arcane
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House is a technocrat, money is just means to an end for him not the end goal.
To be fair they never asked me to do the second one (which made the main quest even shorter). They told me production was up and everything was peachy.
Yosharian
Arcane
Companions can DIE in Supernova mode!? Oh noo... Can you imagine if one of your companions died in a hail of enemy bullets, their body spasming as it's riddled with gunfire, before hitting the dirt face-first... Oh nooo.... That would be just.. terrible. I don't know how I would cope if that happened. Truly.
Excommunicator
Arcane
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And he doesn't seem to think NPC schedules' worth implementing/finds it annoying cos shops are closed at certain times
https://youtu.be/6CrX9B3HQAw?t=2733
Truly the opinions of someone who is tired, burned out and doesn't care any more
Why would you not want to kill people? That's just silly.
Child of Malkav
Erudite
I did a no kill run. Only dialogue and sneak. No, the game doesn't acknowledge your ghost/non-lethal playstyle. Only Sophia says at the end that she knows of your diplomatic skills and manipulation.
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It's funny, New Vegas is without a doubt the more engaging and extensive game but looks, runs and mods like absolute dogshit. Tow runs, looks and plays well but is barely a game and everything is unengaging in the extreme.
i think F:NV easily looks much better than TOW.
Graphics quality or artstyle? Quality is obviously worse when it comes to F:NV (this game has some years on its back). Artstyle is debatable and subjective. I prefer retro-scifi of TOW.
The weapons reloading animation feels great in FNV tho.
The way the caravan shotgun reload animation just snaps after unloading 2 shots felt really really good.
Whoever did the guns in FNV did a better job than TOW, that's for sure.
Some ideas that could've made TOW exploration and combat more fun is probably jumpjet ala Andromeda.
And maybe add dual pistol at skill level 60 just to keep it interesting. ATM I cannot see any point in using pistol unless you want to roleplay.
The way the caravan shotgun reload animation just snaps after unloading 2 shots felt really really good.
Whoever did the guns in FNV did a better job than TOW, that's for sure.
Some ideas that could've made TOW exploration and combat more fun is probably jumpjet ala Andromeda.
And maybe add dual pistol at skill level 60 just to keep it interesting. ATM I cannot see any point in using pistol unless you want to roleplay.
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It's funny New Vegas looks, runs and plays like a game from 10 years ago?
Bliblablubb
Arcane
Obsidian. Obsidian never changes.
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