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Recommend me non-moe shit JRPGs

Riddler

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Has there been any decent JRPG that isn't full of Moe-shit in the past 15 years or so?
 

luj1

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Hope I'm not the only one who pictured Moe Szyslak

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On a serious note.
Good jRPG's that have been released in the last 15 years that aren't moe.
That's a though one...

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition
Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin

EDIT: I would put Disgae, but I am sure there's moe in it.
 

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I liked Breath of Fire 4. It has some moe stuff but it also has some really grim stuff.
 

Duraframe300

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:what:

Not sure if serious. You get plenty of moe or anime shit in that. Including elves, threeway romances (straight out of your modern isekai) and a whole lot more.

I mean I love the lufia series, but that shit was anime before jrpg's even went full anime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)

Are you questioning the moe factor of Tia?

Edit: Then you sir haven't read the 200 page threads about why Tia is better than Selen.
 
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You didn't mention quality all that much but the only thing that comes to mind are the FF games, like the XIII saga, which I don't recommend you play and FFXV. There is also Resonance of Fate.
 
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Oh yeah, both Nier games. Bangin OSTs, interesting settings with TWEESTs and varied gameplay. Everybody suffers.
 

Damned Registrations

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:what:

Not sure if serious. You get plenty of moe or anime shit in that. Including elves, threeway romances (straight out of your modern isekai) and a whole lot more.

I mean I love the lufia series, but that shit was anime before jrpg's even went full anime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)

Are you questioning the moe factor of Tia?

Edit: Then you sir haven't read the 200 page threads about why Tia is better than Selen.
Tia's not even there for most of the game. The dude gets married and has a baby ffs. If a brief one sided crush on a guy qualifies as moe, I think your definition is probably broad enough to include everything ever written.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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Seriously, no Three-Stooges references? That's classic Moe. So, I looked at that wiki. I had on the ole youtube the other day and I clicked on a tuber who only plays JRPGS. I'd be hard pressed to say any of them aren't MOE (some less than others) in the last 15 years. Maybe if they go back to 8x8 pixels and give no personality like the Atari years. That or I just don't understand this moe enough. Is Moe becoming a parasitic style that just sells better than non-moe? And what's with the games that look like damn phone app games or cheap java? Of note, I bingewatched Netflix Castlevania and even that had some "cuteness" light heartedness in it. I know I've seen some dark bloody anime before that as gritty and had none of the humor. Eh, maybe that's not a thing these days.

Nope, gonna get worse and worse...
Maybe it can be contained?
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.......yeeesh
 
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KeighnMcDeath

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I bought that for c64. The disk failed and I couldn't take it back. I probably didn't miss much.


......

After watching the youtube videos... I didn't miss anything. Blek.
 
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Seriously, no Three-Stooges references? That's classic Moe. So, I looked at that wiki. I had on the ole youtube the other day and I clicked on a tuber who only plays JRPGS. I'd be hard pressed to say any of them aren't MOE (some less than others) in the last 15 years. Maybe if they go back to 8x8 pixels and give no personality like the Atari years. That or I just don't understand this moe enough. Is Moe becoming a parasitic style that just sells better than non-moe? And what's with the games that look like damn phone app games or cheap java? Of note, I bingewatched Netflix Castlevania and even that had some "cuteness" light heartedness in it. I know I've seen some dark bloody anime before that as gritty and had none of the humor. Eh, maybe that's not a thing these days.

Nope, gonna get worse and worse...
Maybe it can be contained?
ss_6940cc19190684636888e5b74349db1511a3aa71.600x338.jpg

.......yeeesh

Source: http://theconversation.com/how-cute-things-hijack-our-brains-and-drive-behaviour-61942
How cute things hijack our brains and drive behaviour
July 4, 2016 11.11am EDT

What is the cutest thing you have ever seen? Chances are it involves a baby, a puppy or another adorable animal. And chances are it is forever imprinted on your mind. But what exactly is this powerful attractive force and how is it expressed in the brain?

Together with our colleagues Marc Bornstein from the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and Catherine Alexander from the University of Oxford, we have reviewed the existing research on the topic and discovered that cuteness is more than something purely visual. It works by involving all the senses and strongly attracting our attention by sparking rapid brain activity. In fact, cuteness may be one of the strongest forces that shape our behaviour – potentially making us more compassionate.

Babies are designed to jump to the front of the queue – our brain-processing queue, that is. They get ahead of everything else going on in our minds, which makes them difficult to ignore. They also grab our attention even before we have time to recognise that they are babies. They do it by being cute.

Babies not only look cute, with their big eyes, chubby cheeks and button noses, their infectious laughs and captivating scent also make them sound and smell cute. Their soft skin and chubby limbs may even make them feel cute. Together, these aesthetic qualities act as a crucial mechanism that enables babies to attract us through all our senses. Babies need constant attention and care to survive, and cuteness is one of the main ways they get it.



We find infants and baby animals (left) cuter than adults (right). Cuteness can be further manipulated by exaggerating the roundness of the face, high forehead and big eyes, small nose, and mouth (high vs low). Frontiers/Getty images, Author provided
This nurturing instinct could even be driving our wider perception of cuteness – research has shown that we typically feel affection for animals with juvenile features. Dogs, for instance, have been bred to have similar features to babies, with big eyes, bulging craniums and recessed chins. They are also soft to touch. Whether we want it or not, we may also feel a certain affection for adults and even inanimate objects with infant-like features such as dolls, teddies and even miniature products.

Cuteness on the brain
Cuteness may help to facilitate well-being and complex social relationships by activating brain networks associated with emotion and pleasure and triggering empathy and compassion. When we encounter something cute, it ignites fast brain activity in regions such as the orbitofrontal cortex, which are linked to emotion and pleasure. It also attracts our attention in a biased way: babies have privileged access to entering conscious awareness in our brains.

As a result, we like looking at babies and other cute things. Research has shown that people would rather look at cute baby faces than adult faces and that they would rather adopt or give a toy to babies with cuter faces. Studies have also shown that even babies and children prefer cute baby faces and that cuteness affects both men and women, even if they are not parents. Cute babies also spur us to action: research reveals that people will expend extra effort to look longer at cute baby faces.

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Human orbitofrontal cortex (OFC). The top image shows the OFC on a slice through the middle of the brain, while the bottom image shows the brain seen from below, revealing the OFC covering the part of the brain just over the eyeballs. Morten Kringelbach
Neuroimaging research has shown that in adults, the orbitofrontal cortex becomes active very quickly – 140ms or a seventh of a second – after seeing a baby face. The orbitofrontal cortex is strongly involved in orchestrating our emotions and pleasures, so its rapid activity may partly explain how babies appropriate our attention so quickly and completely.

Cuteness also initiates a response that happens much more slowly. The initial fast attention triggers slower, more sustained processing in large brain networks. This kind of brain activity is associated with complex behaviours involved in the caregiving and bonding that are the hallmarks of parenting. Caring for a baby calls for a set of skills that take time to acquire and hone, and this slow attainment of expertise changes the caregiver’s brain. This kind of considered behaviour cannot be reduced to the fast, instinctual rapid reaction to cuteness.

Can cuteness make us better people?
Parenting is a good example of how cuteness can trigger slow, sustained brain processing in networks associated with emotion, pleasure and social interactions. Still, as shown by our interest not only in our own infants but in other infants and baby animals, cuteness can help trigger empathy and compassion beyond parenting. Activating this network of brain activity may also enable cuteness to boost moral concern by expanding the boundary around what we regard as worthy of moral consideration. For example, an image of a cute infant or baby animal can help charities nudge us to donate more money.

Research on cuteness could also help us to understand how problems in parent-child bonding arise, such as following postpartum depression or an infant being born with a cleft lip and palate. We know these things can disrupt caregiving by changing how people process signals from babies.

Both parental depression and infant cleft lip are associated with developmental difficulties in infants. These conditions are relatively common: post-partum depression affects 10-15% of parents in high-income countries and up to 30% in middle- and low-income countries. Cleft lip affects one in 700 live births in the UK. A better understanding of how we succeed and sometimes fail to receive and interpret baby signals that are crucial for caregiving may help us to develop better treatments for families affected by problems such as these.

We are currently developing early interventions to help increase caregivers’ ability to properly interpret infant signals and provide appropriate responses. We have developed a “baby-social-reward-task” to do this, where participants learn about the temperament of infants through the use of emotional infant vocalisations and faces. Babies that were initially perceived as less cute became more cute through the positive feedback of infant laughter and smiles.
Moe is never going away. It's only going to get worse as advertisers realize they can circumvent people's rational faculties with moe art in much the same way as they do with sexual imagery. The fact that the Japanese are the ones who came up with this strategy lends credence to the idea that the West is sexually repressed.
 

Riddler

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Why am I not surprised that a guy called Marc Bornstein created a study validating his own pedo-desires.
 

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Every JRPG thread the first thing I do is Ctrl+F and search Front Mission.
 

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Every JRPG thread the first thing I do is Ctrl+F and search Front Mission.
That is like looking for panzer general in the dungeon cralwer thread.
 

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