Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Thonius]

I don't want to place them anywhere near LeShitian Studios.

 

[Thonius]

Also if we count review count then one can suggest that Kingmaker (9000+reviews, 2018 release) sold as good or even more then POE (9000 reviews, 2015 release).

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

I check my mirror every morning, I tell lies by the dozens, I've even tried ancient Chinese reconstruction techniques but to no avail. My nose will simply not grow any further. I can never evolve into being a Jew and only caring about the shekels a game makes. The part that a mere commoner like me gets to enjoy, the gameplay, matters not when stacked up against the sales.

I hope one day I can truly become a Jew and grow wings and take to the skies to join my goblinoid-harpy brethren. I've decided, like many Jews of both pure blood and fledgling evolution, my first feat to specialize in will be Vicarious Success (though I may choose Deceptive Holocaust Statistic). I can almost feel the glory, the joy, that is sitting on my chair and clutching my two testicles while my leg shakes uncontrollably and watching the sales of a game rise or fall and making my decision on whether it is worthy or not based upon this.


All I want for Christmas is to celebrate Hanukkah.

 

[Pink Eye]

I check my mirror every morning, I tell lies by the dozens, I've even tried ancient Chinese reconstruction techniques but to no avail. My nose will simply not grow any further. I can never evolve into being a Jew and only caring about the shekels a game makes. The part that a mere commoner like me gets to enjoy, the gameplay, matters not when stacked up against the sales.

I hope one day I can truly become a Jew and grow wings and take to the skies to join my goblinoid-harpy brethren. I've decided, like many Jews of both pure blood and fledgling evolution, my first feat to specialize in will be Vicarious Success (though I may choose Deceptive Holocaust Statistic). I can almost feel the glory, the joy, that is sitting on my chair and clutching my two testicles while my leg shakes uncontrollably and watching the sales of a game rise or fall and making my decision on whether it is worthy or not based upon this.


All I want for Christmas is to celebrate Hanukkah.

This has to be unironically THE best post I have ever read. I think I nearly died from laughing.

 

[fantadomat]

The first Pillars of Eternity sold better than Kingmaker. I'd recommend you wait and see how their sequel does before putting them mentally on the same level as Larian Studios

Ahhh in a pure sale number capacity,most likely you are right. But as profit margin....well i am not so sure about,it could be that kingmaker made more money than pillars. Still that is pretty hard to tell without any concrete numbers.

 

[deuxhero]

https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sh0o?It-s-New-Comics-Day-on-Humble-Bundle

Keep your eyes on Humble Bundle in December as well, as we’ve got a huge Pathfinder First Edition bundle coming in the very near future. We’ve included comics and rulebooks in several past bundles, but next month’s effort will provide a huge number of never-before-bundled game books for anyone looking to master the lore of the Age of Lost Omens. Keep watching this space for more details, and get thee to the (virtual) comic shop! The Pathfinder Comics Cache awaits!

The three PF bundles so far have each included one complete adventure each with the parts divided between bundle tiers: Rise of the Runelords for the first, its sequel Shattered Star for the second and the Crypt of the Everflame trilogy for the ongoing comics bundle. I wonder if they're going to announce what AP the next game is based on and have the original AP it's based on in the humble bundle?

 

[Alphons]

I check my mirror every morning, I tell lies by the dozens, I've even tried ancient Chinese reconstruction techniques but to no avail. My nose will simply not grow any further.

See, here's your problem. First you must "shed thy foreskin". Only when the now purified flesh of your dick is touched by the eternal moonlight will you receive further blessings.

Don't ask me how I know it or I'd have to kill you make a profit by selling your organs to please the great Shekel Man.

 

[Pink Eye]

I check my mirror every morning, I tell lies by the dozens, I've even tried ancient Chinese reconstruction techniques but to no avail. My nose will simply not grow any further.

See, here's your problem. First you must "shed thy foreskin". Only when the now purified flesh of your dick is touched by the eternal moonlight will you receive further blessings.

Don't ask me how I know it or I'd have to kill you make a profit by selling your organs to please the great Shekel Man.

All hail the great shekel god.

 

[RegionalHobo]

reading the thread, you'd think the new game is pathfinder : jewmaker

people on discord are saying a dev spoiled it s Wrath of the Righteous.

 

[Dodo1610]

The problem with most APs is that they are not made for evil characters especially Wrath of the righteous. I mean what reason should a chaotic Evil char have to join some crusade against demons? If they really use it then there won't be as many role-playing options like in Kingmaker

 

[Pink Eye]

reading the thread, you'd think the new game is pathfinder : jewmaker

people on discord are saying a dev spoiled it s Wrath of the Righteous.

Finally, a reason to roll a LG paladin.

 

[Sarkile]

Wrath of The Righteous would make for a good video game in my opinion, but Owlcat wasn't that great at balancing their game initially. I have no idea what would happen if they attempted to take on Pathfinder's Mythic rules.

 

[mondblut]

Taking a look at it in higher detail, it's clear the pic is broken up into jigsaw pieces.

Assuming this pic is from the new game, I think we can rule out Jade Regent (the towns were smaller, more snowy or less european) and Reign of Winter (the towns were smaller, had an absent landmark in the only area this could be "photographed", more snowy, non-human, or more modern), though neither stood out to me as particularly likely in the first place. Too peaceful for Wrath of the Righteous, though again never a good choice. I'll refamiliarize myself with the big towns visited in Rise of the Ruinlords latter today see it could remotely be them (though it's definitely not Sandpoint). Edit: Likely not Iron Gods either, since the settlements either have gaps between the houses or are polluted messes (and higher tech).

Edit: The settlement doesn't appear to have a wall, at least not in the direct we're seeing. That actually cuts out a lot. So much in-fact I'm doubting it's a representation of any town that exists in an AP and not just random art. That or the art just isn't clear on it having a wall.

edit: It may be Kintargo, the main city of Hell's Rebels. It has one side with no wall, because that side has a river protecting it. That area is also the marketplace and named Redroof because "residences of Redroof possess a distinctive look compared to the rest of Kintargo". All the buildings look like they could have red roofs! The east-facing whole city illustration has Redroof blocked from view, but the outside of the city is compatible. I'm going to guess revealed segments will change the scene from peaceful city to it under martial law.

One of the instagram comments suggest Curse of the Crimson Throne, but I doubt it. Korvosa also has one open side, for the same reason, but that area is the second worst slum in the city and has low building density. The picture clearly isn't that.

This is the single most autistic post I've ever read on teh Codex.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

All I want for Christmas is to celebrate Hanukkah

Something's not right here...

 

[deuxhero]

Wrath of The Righteous would make for a good video game in my opinion, but Owlcat wasn't that great at balancing their game initially. I have no idea what would happen if they attempted to take on Pathfinder's Mythic rules.

WoTR is a terrible AP and Mythic is a terrible system.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

All I want for Christmas is to celebrate Hanukkah

Something's not right here...

 

[Sarkile]

Wrath of The Righteous would make for a good video game in my opinion, but Owlcat wasn't that great at balancing their game initially. I have no idea what would happen if they attempted to take on Pathfinder's Mythic rules.

WoTR is a terrible AP and Mythic is a terrible system.

Yes, but I think a lot of the biggest issues with WoTR could be solved if it was a computer game. I don't believe Owlcat would be capable of solving the issues with the Mythic rules, however.

 

[deuxhero]

You'd need to rewrite large chunks of thing. Like the tranny shopkeep that sold an important artifact to evil for a sex change (yes, really) or LG deity that smites you instantly if you show the slightest bit of disagreement. The background traits lock you into a very specific backstory and can easily create siutations that don't make any sense

Spoiler

Touched by Divinity makes you a child of a deity. Whoever wrote this forgot that Pathfinder's racial gods have worshipers outside their race, often more than they do of their race. You wind up with nonsense like a Taldan (white) Human that could be the child of Torag (king of the dwarfs who is also married to another dwarf), Irori (An ascetic and Indian), Nethys (an insane god of magic who happens to be a black human), Erastil (traditionalist for whom having kids out of wedlock would be out of character), or Gorum (a giant that cares only for battle and is never seen outside of his armor), or an Elf child of Iomedae (a human who only became a god ~100 years ago) and more. Nearly half the core pantheon doesn't work.

It's not even a major plot point or anything. After killing one of the bosses a servant of their deity walks up to you and says you're the god's kid. That's literally it. Really.

If any of the PCs has the Touched by Divinity campaign trait, when they defeat the Templars and Zanedra in the fane, a staggering thing occurs. The entire structure suddenly begins to shake and vibrate, and light and energy coruscates over the walls and statues in the complex. As the PCs watch, the defiled structure reverts—its wall carvings and statues regain their original appearance before the fall of Sarkoris. The PC who has the Touched by Divinity campaign trait glows with this same energy, and that PC alone can see the agents of his deity as they move about the fane, reworking the statues and carvings. One of these minions appears before that player at the end of the event to personally thank him. This minion is visible to all party members, and all can hear the minion’s revelation that the PC’s deity has been waiting for this moment to reveal the truth of his heritage—the PC is the child of the deity. At your discretion, the deity’s herald may even manifest before the player to deliver this message. No additional boons or rewards (apart from the completion of a mythic trial for that PC) are granted—this is merely a long-delayed explanation for the character that reveals truths about his past

It drops that a PC is a demigod in a sidebar.

In-fact, Elfs are pretty much unplayable in the AP without any of the traits breaking since all of them use the Worldwound (which only opened ~100 years ago) in the character's childhood.

 

[razvedchiki]

What about the ironfang invasion?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I hope it's a Starfinder game

 

[Chippy]

The first Pillars of Eternity sold better than Kingmaker. I'd recommend you wait and see how their sequel does before putting them mentally on the same level as Larian Studios

I'd double down and say they're (at least) on the same level now. AFAIK none of the newer Obsidian writers have proven to be as competent as the older ones, I haven't bought TOW so don't know how much Cainarsky had to do with the writing there, and - just personally - preferred the wiriting/mental level/structure of PK to POE anyway.

Still, my post was a bit of a troll at Sawyer's expense. He essentially admitted that he doesn't know what fun is - when the Codex always seemed to assume that it was just never allowed under his watch.

 

[Yosharian]

The problem with most APs is that they are not made for evil characters especially Wrath of the righteous. I mean what reason should a chaotic Evil char have to join some crusade against demons? If they really use it then there won't be as many role-playing options like in Kingmaker

If you think all Evil creatures are in cahoots then you've got a very narrow understanding of alignment. There are plenty of reasons a Chaotic Evil character might join a crusade against demons.

 

[Infinitron]

The first Pillars of Eternity sold better than Kingmaker. I'd recommend you wait and see how their sequel does before putting them mentally on the same level as Larian Studios

I'd double down and say they're (at least) on the same level now. AFAIK none of the newer Obsidian writers have proven to be as competent as the older ones, I haven't bought TOW so don't know how much Cainarsky had to do with the writing there, and - just personally - preferred the wiriting/mental level/structure of PK to POE anyway.

Still, my post was a bit of a troll at Sawyer's expense. He essentially admitted that he doesn't know what fun is - when the Codex always seemed to assume that it was just never allowed under his watch.

I'm not really interested in the Pillars vs Pathfinder pissing match. What I'm saying is that in recent years we've seen a lot of sequels that tanked compared to the original games. It's almost a rule these days, with Divinity: Original Sin 2 as the sole exception. So be careful before proclaiming Owlcat Games as the next RPG powerhouse. People talked about Harebrained Schemes the same way after Dragonfall and that didn't last.

 

[Pink Eye]

They haven't even released their game, and already people are doom-saying. Is this the infamous codex cynicism that I've been hearing so much about?

 

[Whipped Cream]

They haven't even released their game, and already people are doom-saying. Is this the infamous codex realism that I've been hearing so much about?

FTFY