This man unironically said Final Fantasy 6, a game wich has some of the best 2D artstyle in gaming, looks like shit. You are a fucking retard.This is truth. I was more thinking of the people who think SNES era Final Fantasy games still look good by today's standards. They don't. They look like shit. SNK games still look pretty decent though.
This man unironically said Final Fantasy 6, a game wich has some of the best 2D artstyle in gaming, looks like shit. You are a fucking retard.This is truth. I was more thinking of the people who think SNES era Final Fantasy games still look good by today's standards. They don't. They look like shit. SNK games still look pretty decent though.
Joined: Jan 2, 2020Nope, you're the one with nostalgia glasses on. If you think pixel graphics still look good by 2020 standards you are the one who is retarded
Joined: Jan 2, 2020Nope, you're the one with nostalgia glasses on. If you think pixel graphics still look good by 2020 standards you are the one who is retarded
2D graphics look objectively better than early day 3D.
No, pretty sure you are the retarded one here. And i didn't played Final Fantasy 6 until the early 2010s, so you can stick that nostalgia bullshit argument up your ass, you mentally challenged dumbfuck.Nope, you're the one with nostalgia glasses on. If you think pixel graphics still look good by 2020 standards you are the one who is retarded
No, pretty sure you are the retarded one here. And i didn't played Final Fantasy 6 until the early 2010s, so you can stick that nostalgia bullshit argument up your ass, you mentally challenged dumbfuck.Nope, you're the one with nostalgia glasses on. If you think pixel graphics still look good by 2020 standards you are the one who is retarded
Also, what the fuck does nostalgia have to do with artstyles? They either look good or bad, so no nostalgia nonsense when deciding that. Always seeing dumbfucks like you using the "nostalgia argument" to justify why people like anything.
You mean like this sprite?Just look at any sprite from any SNES RPG. They weren't even high enough resolution to have noses or mouths on the faces.
You mean like this sprite?Just look at any sprite from any SNES RPG. They weren't even high enough resolution to have noses or mouths on the faces.
They sometimes didn't have noses because they took up a tiny fraction of the screen and it'd be retarded to put such a tiny unrecognizable detail on. You might as well be complaining about the lack of facial features on rts units. They have fucking portraits for a reason, and those lookfinedamned good. Lara's fucking picasso face does not and never did.
So you think that looks terrible compared to, say, this:You mean like this sprite?Just look at any sprite from any SNES RPG. They weren't even high enough resolution to have noses or mouths on the faces.
They sometimes didn't have noses because they took up a tiny fraction of the screen and it'd be retarded to put such a tiny unrecognizable detail on. You might as well be complaining about the lack of facial features on rts units. They have fucking portraits for a reason, and those lookfinedamned good. Lara's fucking picasso face does not and never did.
That sprite looks ok for it's time. If you put that in a game made in 2020 and expected me to be impressed I wouldn't be. That's the point I'm making. Ya'll can disagree if you want but understand what my point is. If your art is from 2020 and I can see the pixels your art sucks.
So you think that looks terrible compared to, say, this:You mean like this sprite?Just look at any sprite from any SNES RPG. They weren't even high enough resolution to have noses or mouths on the faces.
They sometimes didn't have noses because they took up a tiny fraction of the screen and it'd be retarded to put such a tiny unrecognizable detail on. You might as well be complaining about the lack of facial features on rts units. They have fucking portraits for a reason, and those lookfinedamned good. Lara's fucking picasso face does not and never did.
That sprite looks ok for it's time. If you put that in a game made in 2020 and expected me to be impressed I wouldn't be. That's the point I'm making. Ya'll can disagree if you want but understand what my point is. If your art is from 2020 and I can see the pixels your art sucks.
Why wouldn't we take style into account?
"Aside from the fact that it has terrible art direction and style, it sure has more pixels and uses more computing power!!!"
Why wouldn't we take style into account?
"Aside from the fact that it has terrible art direction and style, it sure has more pixels and uses more computing power!!!"
That's the point I'm making! It's pixelated bullshit vs crisp clear art. The sprite has a way cooler style. I like the gothic look. It's still pixelated and looks like shit compared to what it would look like if it was made as nice vector art. To make something pixelated like that on purpose in 2020 and call it a style is stupid. You can have that exact same style and make it look amazing.
I never once said that the art styles from that time don't hold up. I said that the low resolution pixelated shit looks bad by today's standards which has nothing at all to do with the actual art style.
You realize that the 'amazing' versions of old SNES rpgs you're talking about look like this right?Why wouldn't we take style into account?
"Aside from the fact that it has terrible art direction and style, it sure has more pixels and uses more computing power!!!"
That's the point I'm making! It's pixelated bullshit vs crisp clear art. The sprite has a way cooler style. I like the gothic look. It's still pixelated and looks like shit compared to what it would look like if it was made as nice vector art. To make something pixelated like that on purpose in 2020 and call it a style is stupid. You can have that exact same style and make it look amazing.
"Aside from the fact that it has terrible art direction and style, it sure has more pixels and uses more computing power!!!"
What are these "standards" that you speak of? Clearly they have nothing to do with art direction, style, a sense of beauty.
Are you claiming that low resolution stuff is crappy because anything would look better with higher resolution?
Is it "stupid" to record a one-take album in 2020 using a mix of older and newer technologies (which, by the way, is what newer pixel games do, they don't exclusively use 1990s tech)? Or to use a 1960's Moog synthesiser?
If you don't like how pixel graphics became some kind of retro fad the last few years, fine. I also think it was sometimes just used as a trend without a lot of thought behind it.
You realize that the 'amazing' versions of old SNES rpgs you're talking about look like this right?
Join dates are a thing because they often correspond with peasant behavior. Like the typical NeoGaf fag who spams "That's just, like, your opinion" meme from The Big Lebowski or repeats bullshit like "You say it's good only because of nostalgia" to justify some AAA shit.The fuck does join date have to do with anything? You think the circle jerk here is special and that I haven't seen the same opinion everywhere else for years?
This looks quite awesome:
This looks like shit:
That is because the former translates the spirit of the character much better than something that tries to look modern for the sake of it but ends up uncanny valley.
Clearly there's some aspect of older graphics that you think is fine and some aspect you think is shitty but you just can't seem to explain in a clear and specific way.
Of course you could do a game like FF6 and use some modern techniques to make judicious improvements - but to do so in an intelligent way, you need to have an understanding of the art direction and how your technical decisions contribute to that. You don't improve any game visual just by adding more pixels. So what is it about that scene above or the design of the characters or the perspectives that is improved by the play-doh clay blobs of the FF6 remake?
I think it's the part where the seams in the bricks don't line up in the pillar's base. That's really a great improvement only achievable with the higher resolution.