AdamReith
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Purism and grognardism aren't the same thing at all.
Grognardism could be used perjoratively against purists though. Emphasising their old fashionedness and impractical attitudes.
Purism and grognardism aren't the same thing at all.
Once again who cares? i honestly don't give a shit
in the case of an engine overhaul, definitely falls into that realm. there is more bone to pick with beamdog outside of just making the originals impossible to purchase legally, it has changed how people play the games - and definitely in a way outside of developer intent.Purism and grognardism aren't the same thing at all.
in the case of an engine overhaul, definitely falls into that realm. there is more bone to pick with beamdog outside of just making the originals impossible to purchase legally, it has changed how people play the gamesPurism and grognardism aren't the same thing at all.
And divided up the modding support network
Big mistake.The only reason i'm debating you on this topic is because i thought you were reasonable enough to debate.
old codex would have been more on lilura's side, I think.
codex is getting pretty soft nowadays, definitely not grognard anymore
You 2 edge lords believing a mod for Fallout 1 is really the most amazing thing since sliced bread, when the general populace thinks Fallout is shit because 4 and 76 happened.codex is getting pretty soft nowadays, definitely not grognard anymore
Yes. Too many apologist faggots and insufferable newfags around. Time is due for a purge.
Superfluous thread - much like any thread Lilura gets involved into.
Also she posted like 10 posts after she quit. lul
Seems like this mod is riddled with bugs. I can't imagine why anyone would touch anything Fallout related that has bugs at the present time.I'm sorry, but this sort of low-ball trolling is so boring. It's posters like this that are dragging the 'Dex way down.
New Codex is on Lilura's side regarding Beamdog. As far as I know, only [Redacted Individual Who Must Not Be Named] ever championed the EEs around here. The difference is that Beamdog is criticised for making bad changes and running a scummy business. That's the grognard take. "The EEs suck because they make changes to the original games" isn't the same at all. In fact, to elevate any game to something that can't be criticised or improved upon is profoundly un-Codexian, old or new.old codex would have been more on lilura's side, I think.
Disagreed, a Grognard take was that BG-Tutu was bad because it did exactly what this mod is doing - shoving one game into a later one and calling it an improvement. I should know, because BG-Tutu was a common recommendation years and years ago, and I even played BG1 in Tutu first! And as Lilura pointed out, GoG is also quite happy to take "improvements" and shove it into their releases - gatekeeping from the community is a necessity; companies set on re-releases are listening.That's the grognard take.
Preserving the original experience as-is, and recommending that all newbies experience the same thing the original way seems quite Codexian to me.In fact, elevating any game to something that can't be criticised or improved upon is profoundly un-Codexian, old or new.
Lilura said:Wrong. We simply expressed our monocled views on the matter. Scrubs can express theirs, too.
You don't have to have a silly little icon next to your username to always have a standard for yourself, always live up to it, and always strive to maintain it.The thing is, the monocle is what seperates us prestigious Codexers from the scrubs. Where's your monocle?
Why are you retards comparing Lexx's mod to what Beamdog did? WTF? This isn't even remotely close. I've been Beamdog's hater from day 1 (logo I've made for Beamdog was even Beamdog's official logo on Polish Google for quite a while and my GOGmix "Beamdog is the parasite of the industry" which had over 500 votes got deleted by GOG on their demand) and this is definitely not similar situation.in the case of an engine overhaul, definitely falls into that realm. there is more bone to pick with beamdog outside of just making the originals impossible to purchase legally, it has changed how people play the games - and definitely in a way outside of developer intent.
Already made the further comparison to BGTutu.Why are you retards comparing Lexx's mod to what Beamdog did? WTF?
Or Valve and GOG decide it's the definitive way to play and pack it off to newbies who don't know any better.If anything we should make backups of this mod because you won't find it on GOG or Steam and sooner or later it might become impossible.
Why are you retards comparing Lexx's mod to what Beamdog did? WTF?
Because the point of this mod isn't to make a 1:1 port of Fo1 in Fo2. If we'd wanted to, we could make a 100% exact copy of Fo1 in Fo2. It probably wouldn't even take us longer than a month, because it only requires two more engine hacks. However, this would be a complete waste of time.which took pain-staking effort to be 100% faithful to vanilla JA2 while quashing all bugs; this mod, BGTutu or any other engine ports are not in the same caliber as Stracc.
I don't.If you hate playing mods
Quite clearly, but try to deal with criticism with more grace, eh?This version of the game is not for you.
I'm just pointing out the obvious. This project exists to play a modified version of Fallout. If someone hates playing a modified version of Fallout 1, then the case is closed. No point in arguing for 4 pages. I really try not to, but tbh this thread is triggering me pretty hard, because it's wasting so much of my thoughts and time.Quite clearly, but try to deal with criticism with more grace, eh?