Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Pink Eye]

I don't think so. I beat pathfinder on the hardest difficulty with a monk. I also wasted hundreds of hours on unfair iron man making little to no progress with a monk. I also got to floor 100 with a monk on unfair, in the DLC dungeon.

 

[Gyor]

Good God. People getting upset about an optional turn-based mode is about as ridiculous as it would be if people were upset about the robust customizable difficulty settings. Completely irrational behavior. People are insane.

It's just the usual combat mode factionalism unfortunately.

Even adding/allowing both doesn't stop the fanatics from whining.

I plan on using both modes personally, TB for more complex battles and RTwP for trash mobs or even switching between them depending upon my mood.

 

[Gyor]

We've been so distracted by turned based that we forgot to guess what the next stretch goal is. Anybody know?

+1 Archetype per class, I originally thought it was the Investigator Class, but its +1 Archetype per class.

24 Base Classes x 6 is a 144 Archetypes. This will increase if future stretch goals include more classes like Hunter, Shifter, ect...

Plus the 6th Warpriest Archetype might be the Sacred Fist, which trades a pile of Warpriest festures for Monk features, turning the class into a monk with divine spellcasting.

 

[Tacgnol]

I like the idea of monks but they've always been pretty hopeless as a class. PF's monks are probably the best incarnation, the older versions were a joke.

They are only good in pathfinder, in 5E they are lackluster again with little interest.

Eh, good is a stretch.

The unchained monk is alright as martials go, but it isn't amazing. A well built fighter or barbarian normally outdamages them pretty easily.

Frustratingly although Paizo fixed a lot of the base class issues with the unchained monk, they did remove one of Monks awesome features: three good saves.

 

[Gyor]

Wait. I got a plan. If TB kickstarter comments can get Owlcat to implement TB. Then maybe they're reading my comments about monks. Then maybe there is still a chance for monk content. Holy shit, there is still hope, monk bros.

Did you not read the current stretch goal? Double Reactivity includes NPCs and companions reacting to your class (and race and heritage/subrace even).

That means that NPCs to will notice that you are playing a Monk and make fun of you for it accordingly.

And the next Stretch goal is +1 Archetype per class that means the Monk gets another Archetype.

We also know we get a Monk companion and the Zen Archer Archetype.

So that is your Monk content.

That's not gameplay. I want better and improved kicking and punching animations. I want cool archetypes. Zen archer is cool, but I want more. I want improved monk robes and more monk gear. I want more monk portraits too.

You will likely here about attack animations when Owlcat posts their Blog post about improvements to animation. And again the next stretch goal means another Monk Archetype for 6 total Monk archetypes, plus the basic monk class.

 

[Pink Eye]

Wait. I got a plan. If TB kickstarter comments can get Owlcat to implement TB. Then maybe they're reading my comments about monks. Then maybe there is still a chance for monk content. Holy shit, there is still hope, monk bros.

Did you not read the current stretch goal? Double Reactivity includes NPCs and companions reacting to your class (and race and heritage/subrace even).

That means that NPCs to will notice that you are playing a Monk and make fun of you for it accordingly.

And the next Stretch goal is +1 Archetype per class that means the Monk gets another Archetype.

We also know we get a Monk companion and the Zen Archer Archetype.

So that is your Monk content.

That's not gameplay. I want better and improved kicking and punching animations. I want cool archetypes. Zen archer is cool, but I want more. I want improved monk robes and more monk gear. I want more monk portraits too.

You will likely here about attack animations when Owlcat posts their Blog post about improvements to animation. And again the next stretch goal means another Monk Archetype for 6 total Monk archetypes, plus the basic monk class.

That would be awesome.

 

[Reinhardt]

There is a long tradition of suck for D&D monks in CRPG, starting from BG 2 and gloriously upheld through IWD 2, ToEE(?) and NWN 1&2.

Played all these games with monk.

 

[Hamster]

No apparent effect from TB announcement so far

 

[Pink Eye]

I was RIGHT OWLCAT GAMES IS IN THE /V/ THREAD!

 

[LannTheStupid]

I don't know if the Codex has any monk fans.

I tried to be a monk fun, but you had rejected my post about furry bio-mechanics as incomprehensible!

 

[Pink Eye]

https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/495985508#p495987358

 

[Pink Eye]

AHHHH!

 

[LannTheStupid]

Maybe we can get a monk monestary in the game where only monks are allowed

It sounds like good "Double Reactivity".

 

[Pink Eye]

Give me monk content!

 

[Sharpedge]

monk bros

Who are these monk bros you keep talking to?

There are anons that like monks, they also read my guide on monks too. I am sure there are some monk lovers here, there has to be.

Are they also Kineticist 19/Monk 1? Thats a pretty good monk build.

 

[Dr Skeleton]

No apparent effect from TB announcement so far

A few people in the comments got really butthurt and cancelled their pledges because of it, so there's that

 

[Van-d-all]

Most casuals scatter at the sight of TB. There's a reason nuXcom had to dumb it to 2AP.

Casuals scatter at most things. There are levels of casualness. The casuals you're talking about are even more casual than the ones I'm talking about

Not really. RTwP attracts more people than TB, it's pretty much why it was even created in the first place - to mimic the then popular RTS genre.

 

[oldmanpaco]

It feels like they have enough classes, archetypes and whatever. They need to work on their AI and art assets.

 

[Tacgnol]

It feels like they have enough classes, archetypes and whatever. They need to work on their AI and art assets.

Yeah. Modders can add classes and stuff that is missing, more graphical variety is important.

 

[StrongBelwas]

Not really. RTwP attracts more people than TB, it's pretty much why it was even created in the first place - to mimic the then popular RTS genre.

Original Sin would not have been the most successful series of the kickstarter era if this was the case.

 

[Lacrymas]

TB is definitely more marketable and does better on the market. RTwP is generally trash that requires extensive ways to make it less trash.

 

[Quillon]

RTwP attracts more people than TB

In this day and age most don't even know what RTwP stands for

 

[Tacgnol]

TB is definitely more marketable and does better on the market. RTwP is generally trash that requires extensive ways to make it less trash.

Also, lots of consolefags are familiar with TB due to JRPGs. Mention RTWP to that audience and you'll just get a blank look.

 

[Ontopoly]

TB is definitely more marketable and does better on the market. RTwP is generally trash that requires extensive ways to make it less trash.

Also, lots of consolefags are familiar with TB due to JRPGs. Mention RTWP to that audience and you'll just get a blank look.

Can we talk about how almost every JRPG isn't actually an rpg or would we have to take that to a new thread?

 

[Lawntoilet]

TB is definitely more marketable and does better on the market. RTwP is generally trash that requires extensive ways to make it less trash.

Also, lots of consolefags are familiar with TB due to JRPGs. Mention RTWP to that audience and you'll just get a blank look.

Can we talk about how almost every JRPG isn't actually an rpg or would we have to take that to a new thread?

Hey now don't go talking shit about Planescape Torment