Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Grunker]

Is this kind of DOS2-y cookiecutter dialogue acceptable in the post-DE era?

DOS2 was immensely popular despite being a messy pile of what the hell and a clear downgrade over #1 in most areas.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

tfw no gith gf

tfw no big tiddy gith gf

tfw no good upcoming CRPG

 

[Van-d-all]

Because Pillows is how a 'faithful' BG sequel / remake would look in 2020. It would also be shit.

So does Pathfinder, and I'd take it over this anytime.

 

[Ausdoerrt]

DOS2 was immensely popular despite being a messy pile of what the hell and a clear downgrade over #1 in most areas.

It had a more generic / mainstream story, which is what sold it to most people, I think. DOS1 was more like proof of concept.

I've had a hunch for a long time that the game would have turn-based combat. What I'm curious to see now is whether it will have either 1) alternate real-time combat mode or 2) "action" third-person perspective exploration with jumping/climbing etc.

My bet is yes, it will. For 1) at least, or BG fanboys will eat them alive.

 

[Grunker]

DOS2 was immensely popular despite being a messy pile of what the hell and a clear downgrade over #1 in most areas.

It had a more generic / mainstream story, which is what sold it to most people, I think. DOS1 was more like proof of concept.

Which this will have to an even higher degree, only support my point :D

 

[Lacrymas]

If Featherfall is in, does that mean we'll have verticality to play around with? Solasta just lost its only gimmick.

 

[Jezal_k23]

DOS2 was immensely popular despite being a messy pile of what the hell and a clear downgrade over #1 in most areas.

It had a more generic / mainstream story, which is what sold it to most people, I think. DOS1 was more like proof of concept.

I've had a hunch for a long time that the game would have turn-based combat. What I'm curious to see now is whether it will have either 1) alternate real-time combat mode or 2) "action" third-person perspective exploration with jumping/climbing etc.

My bet is yes, it will. For 1) at least, or BG fanboys will eat them alive.

DOS1 started with the murder mystery, and I've seen plenty of more casual players on Reddit say the game stalls as soon as they get into Cyseal and then they have no idea what to do with the investigation and also have no idea where to go. DOS2 has a much more straightforward start.

 

[Van-d-all]

It had a more generic / mainstream story, which is what sold it to most people, I think. DOS1 was more like proof of concept.

It had major marketing and mainstream marketable elements like full voiceover and colorful graphics.

 

[Jimmious]

If Featherfall is in, does that mean we'll have verticality to play around with? Solasta just lost its only gimmick.

There is verticality in the combat image that was leaked, that archer is basically 3 stories above her target. Of course it remains to be seen if it will be like in D:OS2 or even more evolved

 

[Riddler]

If anything.

Look at the fireplace behind and the clothes: he is the same guy in a different form.

Why is he front lit when the fire is behind him though?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Why is he front lit when the fire is behind him though?

Magic! It is a fantasy setting after all.

Spoiler

 

[Mortmal]

Confirmed: Swen has balls of steel, he's making a turn-based top-down RPG with 350 people. Screens leaked by French site: https://www.jeuxactu.com/jeu/images-baldur-s-gate-3-20343-5.htm

It looks like D:OS 2+.

More:

damn, what a bro. Will fucking first day buy if true, don't even care if its good in the end really. Just the principle of him doing it. a AAA 350 person top down AD&D turn based RPG. Yeah there is going to be some decline in the dialogue and shit maybe, etc..but if this is true, dude deserves some support for doing this IMO.

Lots of incline there, difficult terrain status received, use of Z axis, the crossbowman is up there (giving him advantage on its shot?) means its faithfull to the pen and paper system ,status effects ont he characters, bludgeoning damage, means different damage types. Interface clearly shows there's many spells and abiltiies you can place there , i dont see cooldowns either. The AC system of DOS 2 is gone, replaced by the hp system of D&D 5E. Only thing different is the hit chance there's no such thing in 5E, its copy pasted from DOS 2.Hopefully there's a mode for purists.

Now why so much secrecy about gameplay , what was so wrong in telling us its pretty much like DOS 2 and turn based ?

 

[Grunker]

If Featherfall is in, does that mean we'll have verticality to play around with? Solasta just lost its only gimmick.

Look at the combat screenshot - it seems designed to demonstrate verticality. And if nothing else we know that the dos engine handles verticality pretty well

 

[Riddler]

Is this kind of DOS2-y cookiecutter dialogue acceptable in the post-DE era?

DOS2 was immensely popular despite being a messy pile of what the hell and a clear downgrade over #1 in most areas.

This honestly astounds me. I know plenty of people with fairly diverse gaming tastes, casual and hardcore but none like DoS2, yet online it seems popular and it has good player numbers of steam. Where do all these people come from? Who are they?

 

[Doktor Best]

How exactly is this a copy of Divinity OS now? Or are we pulling claims out of our asses again?

And even if it was true, wasnt DOS1 GOTY 2014 and DOS2 GOTY 2017 here on the codex? Where does all the butthurt come from?

 

[Elex]

Why is he front lit when the fire is behind him though?

Magic! It is a fantasy setting after all.

Spoiler

He is probally asmdeous or similar so he do what he want with light.

 

[Saerain]

I just want a good toolset so bad. The style is... decent, and I don't hate D:OS2 mechanics by any means, so let me write my own shitty story and we're golden.

 

[Elex]

How exactly is this a copy of Divinity OS now? Or are we pulling claims out of our asses again?

And even if it was true, wasnt DOS1 GOTY 2014 and DOS2 GOTY 2017 here on the codex? Where does all the butthurt come from?

From beamdog fan that think BG is about infinity engine and 2D backdrop.

 

[Roguey]

People whining "it's too D:OS" sound like they wanted Larian to make another Pillars of Eternity

People wanted PoE-esque art with good D&D-based combat (whether turn-based or rtwp) and normal-looking dialogue. As it is now, when it comes to successors, PoE wins art, Kingmaker wins combat and writing (low bar), BG3 wins, uh... maybe the combat will hold up?

 

[Jimmious]

Is this kind of DOS2-y cookiecutter dialogue acceptable in the post-DE era?

DOS2 was immensely popular despite being a messy pile of what the hell and a clear downgrade over #1 in most areas.

This honestly astounds me. I know plenty of people with fairly diverse gaming tastes, casual and hardcore but none like DoS2, yet online it seems popular and it has good player numbers of steam. Where do all these people come from? Who are they?

To me your statement is what astounds me. I know similarly quite a lot of various degrees of gamers and noone dislikes DoS2, they all like it to different degrees. D:OS2 has an extremely good reputation everywhere (but in here , of course)

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Screens look very generic.

I've hoped for something different.

 

[vonAchdorf]

Looks a bit generic and bland, but could have been worse.

 

[Lacrymas]

Now why so much secrecy about gameplay , what was so wrong in telling us its pretty much like DOS 2 and turn based ?

Because they thought it would alienate the fans of BG and they'd accuse them of aping the name. They didn't realize, however, that the prestigious fans wanted BG to be turn-based in the first place. I'm trying very hard to contain my excitement, but I find it a bit difficult because this is the first AAA turn-based D&D RPG ever. Ever. I didn't think I'd live to see the day. Unless you count the Goldbox games, but I wouldn't, are they considered AAA? I doubt it. The only thing I don't like is that it looks like DA:I.

 

[Grunker]

Is this kind of DOS2-y cookiecutter dialogue acceptable in the post-DE era?

DOS2 was immensely popular despite being a messy pile of what the hell and a clear downgrade over #1 in most areas.

This honestly astounds me. I know plenty of people with fairly diverse gaming tastes, casual and hardcore but none like DoS2, yet online it seems popular and it has good player numbers of steam. Where do all these people come from? Who are they?

All of my casual RPG-interested friends love the shit out of DS2. Honestly, most people don't give a toss about game mechanics. DOS2 is a goofy pot full of insane ideas and customization which people really gel with. No one notices that the loot system is a randomly generated shitbag of linear upgrades all the way through the game, and since they're playing on normal they're curbstomping the combat too hard to notice its problems as well

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Man catching up to this thread after work tomorrow gonna be hard. The stream is 2 AM my time and when I return to work tomorrow I would probably have at least 50 additional pages.