Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Elex]

we have to tweet it to swen.

 

[Saerain]

How about because it is bad writing? Like, bad on a third-grade level.

How about you stop making fucking dumb claims as if they were a matter of fact and try a bit harder on the "rational" part of your justification?

If you're asking me why the screen-shotted dialog is bad writing, I'm going to assume English isn't your first language. If English is your first language, and you still don't see a problem with that horribly clunky shit, you have no taste or you can't fucking read.

"If you don't see why I'm right without reasoning, I definitely don't need reasoning."

These kinds of "Wow, just wow, where do I start, you're just a lost cause," cognitive dissonance replies never get old.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I can't wait to play this game, feels good not to be a depressed doomer.

 

[Dedicated_Dark]

In practical terms the difference between a non-voiced
"Yes, I agree"
and a non-voiced
*I told him I agreed*
is entirely flavor. It doesn't change a fucking thing.

THAT'S IT!! YOU little SHIT! GET OVER HERE SO I CAN BEAT SOME SENSE INTO YOU! YOU FCKN WANKER!!!

 

[Sacibengala]

Just seeing a few screenshots made me feel bored. Imagine this going on for like 40-50 hours :/

This reminds me of one chick I met online. Her instagram photos were boring as f*. But dude, the time we spent together, you wouldn't know what she is capable of just considering those family girl photos.

 

[Theodora]

I'm guessing that it pays well to be a male prostitute in Berlin and he enjoys it too))

It actually does. I'm not in Berlin or a prostitute, but being a callboy is extremely lucrative.

That doesn't surprise me at all, s1sede.

male sex workers get paid more on average, at least in australia. less icky clients too.

 

[Grunker]

we have to tweet it to swen.

Infinitron get on this you lazy cow

 

[Strange Fellow]

Not sure why the ruleset makes any difference.

You obviously haven't played D:OS 2 then.

 

[Lacrymas]

male sex workers get paid more on average, at least in australia. less icky clients too.

It depends on what kind of male sex worker you are, if you are out on the streets like the usual representation of a prostitute, it's pretty much the same. That kind of prostitution is terrible. If you are a straight male porn actor, you are paid peanuts, but if you do gay porn, wohoho, you get paid more than women. I'm not sure about the differences in the higher echelons of sex work (callboys vs female companions), but I'd imagine they are around the same. Men have more power and security, though, it's harder to overwhelm a trained man (which callboys usually are, duh).

 

[Theodora]

Dude, we know your black piller shtick. "Everything is getting worse because muh Kali Yuga". It's making you miserable and yet you continue with this self-defeating belief.

I liked D:OS a lot, so why should I dislike D:OS in the Forgotten Realms setting?

"If I don't like it, no one should."

 

[Lyric Suite]

Imagine thinking we could have incline for a change.

Imagine thinking that taking the risk to create the first ever TURN-BASED and ISOMETRIC RPG on an AAA-budget is somehow "decline".

Muh turn based combat.

If this was Divinity 3 you'd probably wouldn't be giving much of a shit.

Dude, we know your black piller shtick. "Everything is getting worse because muh Kali Yuga". It's making you miserable and yet you continue with this self-defeating belief.

I liked D:OS a lot, so why should I dislike D:OS in the Forgotten Realms setting?

This is Stockholm syndrome in action.

"It's not what i expected from a sequel to Baldur's Gate, but hey, compared to the alternatives Original Sin 3 with D&D rules it's the best we could have hoped for".

Maybe it is, but at that point they could have just made any type of D&D game and call it a day.

Either way, ALL i'm saying is that the fact the game is turn based does not in and of itself make this a win. We certainly need to see how it's implemented first.

 

[jackofshadows]

It basically looks like DOS with improved graphics...for 350 people they'll need to sell what, 2.5 million copies to break even? Not really seeing it, but perhaps the BG brand name really has that much power.

The whole idea of 5 branches across the world is to reduce overall game's budget, right? I mean, there're not exactly equal people.

It's cringe to see the mainstream crowd getting all excited while they have never experienced the classics.

I've seen a lot responses today (not here) like "Hey, it's looks almost exactly like DOS2... AWESOME!! coz I want moar" etc. Of course they don't give a tiniest shit about franchise, why would they?

I'm not strictly a fan of this approach, but in all honesty I also don't give a shit about it and I think for all intents and purposes it's practically inconsequential.
I'd be curious to read something *rational* about hwy do you people care so fucking much about trivial shit like this.

Yeah, imagine using this approach when it comes to sex scenes.
- I put on my robe and wizard hat
***

 

[Terenty]

This game has zero identity of its own based on these screens. Like complete null.

It looks like D:OS, it looks like Dragon Age, it looks like Dungeon Siege, it looks like Diablo, it looks like an MMO

You know what it doesn't look like in any shape or form? Yeah, BG series

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Dude, we know your black piller shtick. "Everything is getting worse because muh Kali Yuga". It's making you miserable and yet you continue with this self-defeating belief.

I liked D:OS a lot, so why should I dislike D:OS in the Forgotten Realms setting?

"If I don't like it, no one should."

Codex 101.

 

[Saravan]

I believe we have reached peak autism.

I was wrong.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Yeah, imagine using this approach when it comes to sex scenes.
- I put on my robe and wizard hat
***

It's like with Original Sin, except now you are the narrator lul

 

[Shadenuat]

Yet it is not near enough to stop combat from being an auto-attack fest past level 8.

the funny thing is that developers tried to cap player at level true to pnp, around 17, or even less, but the moment players realised they can't reach level 20 the reaction of the community was very swift. hurr theres 20 levels so i want to be 20. i played X and there its 20 ergo it must be 20.

the most sensible way would be to split game in multiple chapters, or 3 games even, leaving epic content for later, but how would players react to paying money for game 1 addon and epilogue dlc is a question. but that would allow to work separately on different party levels and encounters and itemization and urrhh *spits on the ground* balance... the game much better.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

I look at this and thinking, maybe I never liked your so-called "RPGs" for real (But BG2 was great! But Torment was great!).
Or you are all brainwashed sheeple now because of despair.

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[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

If you're asking me why the screen-shotted dialog is bad writing, I'm going to assume English isn't your first language. If English is your first language, and you still don't see a problem with that horribly clunky shit, you have no taste or you can't fucking read.

Yeah, it's not my first language, indeed, and it looks like it barely qualifies as yours, as well, given the poor reading comprehension.
Because no, I'm not arguing in favor of the text in these alpha screenshots (most likely having even their fair amount of typos and placeholder text) but about the system in general.

ETA: Forget about all of the rules it is violating -- show don't tell, heavy use of filtering, etc. If you even know what those things are. You probably don't.

Now you're just throwing shit on the wall hoping for something to stick.
A list of impersonal things your character is evaluating to say is not even "writing" in the sense you are implying and the "show, don't tell" rule does not apply even remotely.

It almost sounds like you followed a couple of lessons from some correspondence course about creative writing and now you're trying to show off despise a poor understanding of what you are talking about.

ETA2:

In practical terms the difference between a non-voiced
"Yes, I agree"
and a non-voiced
*I told him I agreed*
is entirely flavor. It doesn't change a fucking thing.

Lol it is not FLAVOR you idiot. It is definition of filtering, the hallmark of classically bad writing in fiction. You don't know what you're talking about, at all.

See? You are completely clueless. This is an interactive medium where you are inserting yourself in the narrative as the the conversing character.
Nothing of what you are picking from the list is supposed to be read aloud as a line in the dialogue, just to suggest you where you are directing the conversation.
Or did you think the Avatar literally went around Britannia repeating just "Name", "Job", "Shit" like your average Aspenger codexer with a Keldron avatar?

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Larian dialogue has always sucked, no shockers there.

 

[smaug]

Could they have AT LEAST kept the style and aesthetic of Baldur’s Gate, ffs of course not. This is genuinely the only thing pissing me off.

 

[Theodora]

This is Stockholm syndrome in action.

"It's not what i expected from a sequel to Baldur's Gate, but hey, compared to the alternatives Original Sin 3 with D&D rules it's the best we could have hoped for".

Maybe it is, but at that point they could have just made any type of D&D game and call it a day.

Either way, ALL i'm saying is that the fact the game is turn based does not in and of itself make this a win. We certainly need to see how it's implemented first.

Idk man, the weird pausing-all-the-fucking-time combat of the original BG games is like my least favourite thing about them. TB combat IS D&D, not a corruption of it.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Visually looks like Neverwinter Nights 2 Two. On a non-awful engine.

Eh... it could be worse.

 

[Lady_Error]

Either way, ALL i'm saying is that the fact the game is turn based does not in and of itself make this a win.

Wrong. The fact that they are taking the risk with turn-based and isometric on this budget is already a big win. It has never been done before.

We certainly need to see how it's implemented first.

Of course, but that is quite different from calling it outright decline.

 

[FranticDistortion]

4 screenshots is enough for Codexians to draw objective conclusion about game's quality- be it gameplay, atmosphere, quality of writing or political stances of every staff member working on the game.