We agree on all of the above, yet what I am getting at is that many of these people only feign despair (ergo the woe-is-me attitude).And I want to tell you that people who have no outside-of-capitalist-realism interests in life AND are not designed to be top-dogs in this system ARE inevitably vulnerable to the despair. However you want to call it. How can you not, when the watch of your boss costs your 10-year salary but to reduce losses he will not sell his watch but fire you.
Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt Euch!
One of the most shit things about severe clinical depression is how it looks like laziness on the outside. How do you tell someone that, yes, you really don't have the energy to get groceries, or bring in the mail, or make that phone call today? It's incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't been truly depressed that such a state is possible.As previously mentioned, faking depression isn't solely about gibs. It's also about justifying one's lack of ambition, work ethic and what have you. Much easier to cry about depression than to admit to yourself and others that you are a lazy piece of shit.Thought I think it's also an age think, older generation are usually more of the, you have to toughen it out, keep it together, don't talk about it or even show it, whereas younger people are more open about it these days, talking and accepting it
That much is correct. My to willingness to believe people who claim they cannot be expected to work and do unpleasant things is getting lower every year.
Not really lot of these people ("who are faking depression") in the countries such as Russia where you don't have unemployment money from government (well, technically you do have, but it is like $15/month).
"just do it, even though you don't feel like it!"
With what energy? With what motivation? The house could be on fire and you'd barely muster the energy to call 911.
I do not deny the existence of clinical depression, only its spread among all of those that claim to be suffering of it.
Well, you know the story of the boy that cried 'wolf'.Like many issues to do with individual justice, we can only accept the frauds and fakes where excluding them would inevitably also catch the genuine article.
If people suspect that they are depressed, they should go and get themselves diagnosed by a professional instead of self-diagnosing.
One of the most shit things about severe clinical depression is how it looks like laziness on the outside. How do you tell someone that, yes, you really don't have the energy to get groceries, or bring in the mail, or make that phone call today? It's incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't been truly depressed that such a state is possible.As previously mentioned, faking depression isn't solely about gibs. It's also about justifying one's lack of ambition, work ethic and what have you. Much easier to cry about depression than to admit to yourself and others that you are a lazy piece of shit.Thought I think it's also an age think, older generation are usually more of the, you have to toughen it out, keep it together, don't talk about it or even show it, whereas younger people are more open about it these days, talking and accepting it
That much is correct. My to willingness to believe people who claim they cannot be expected to work and do unpleasant things is getting lower every year.
Not really lot of these people ("who are faking depression") in the countries such as Russia where you don't have unemployment money from government (well, technically you do have, but it is like $15/month).
"just do it, even though you don't feel like it!"
With what energy? With what motivation? The house could be on fire and you'd barely muster the energy to call 911.
If people suspect that they are depressed, they should go and get themselves diagnosed by a professional instead of self-diagnosing.
I would agree more if healthcare more generally was free/affordable, or not often shit when it was (like I said above re: avoiding diagnosing me with anything helpful bc it would harm their stats). Northern European, and especially British, doctors I've found to be increeedibly patronising,
The self-Dx question seems complex and I don't have experiences to help understand it, but I tried the whole Finding Inner Strength thing and all it did was delay important discoveries by over half a decade until crisis caused evaluation by a competent professional. Thankfully(?) some other conditions like PTSD are visibly obvious to others and harder to ignore.
One of my Dx means the emotional control part of my brain is about 15% smaller than it's meant to be; and in turn, the same Dx gives you a 5-10% chance of dying by suicide.
Under these arrangements skilled applicants who have all the requisite qualifications (and points) for a visa, and may even have a job offer in Australia, can be rejected on the Health Requirement if they or a member of their family have a disability.
It's not about that, it's about proving family violence. It's meant to help stop abusive partners fro threatening you with immigration stuff, but in my ignorance I was successfully manipulated with the dual threat of homelessness and losing the place that had become home.Also just out of curiosity. You wrote that you needed to convince the Australian doctors you have this neurological impairment to be given a permanent visa. Does Australia hand out visas for people with handicaps, is there a term for it?
On the other hand there are people who have seriously fucked up brain chemistry and practically cannot spend time at a full time job. They would maybe be able to work for 1 hour or 2 but then the job expects them to stay another 7 or 8, and that's pure hell if not impossible.
As previously mentioned, faking depression isn't solely about gibs. It's also about justifying one's lack of ambition, work ethic and what have you. Much easier to cry about depression than to admit to yourself and others that you are a lazy piece of shit.
I appreciate that you get this? Although I think the perception that 'everyone has depression (just of differing severity)' has some superficial truth because of capitalism's shared bs, I don't think it's the same to know you're useless for the rest of a day, vs. "I don't know if I'll ever be my old self again."
This isn't a number specific to me, I was pulling a conservative stat for BPD from the back of my head. In the process of finding studies to show you why I said that, I found out that the case was far worse in that crossover. Which explains why I was x10 more functional when I only had BPD, despite in a sense, only getting 'twice as sick'. Does that make sense?
It would be nice if the stakes were the same as pushing fat kids to run further than they think they can. But the reality is the mental health equivalent has killed people. There's a great sense of shame that comes with not knowing how to heal, feeling like you're wasting people's time, feeling lazy yet not knowing what will stop you from ending up catatonic or worse from overreaching.I also have to think of the first time we did a 5,000m run in school when I saw half the people standing and gasping after 400m. They could have walked on, which would have gotten them at least half as fast closer to the target, but they preferred to stand in groups and claim they can't do no more.
That's the beauty of the illusion of free will.This is, and will, always remain a mystery.
I'm not sure either that you can limit the problem to the medical condition.
There is a spiritual dimension to the problem
As previously mentioned, faking depression isn't solely about gibs. It's also about justifying one's lack of ambition, work ethic and what have you. Much easier to cry about depression than to admit to yourself and others that you are a lazy piece of shit.
Specifically, I think you can even fake it to yourself. There is a certain point where people can actually screw over themselves and become convinced that they are completely incapacitated, that the rest of humanity has an unfair advantage. Depression is one, but not the only source of such quitting. Most people do that for example with mathematics (now many times you hear people claim they can't even do basic math because they are "too dumb", when in fact they are just too lazy since when it came up in 5th grade and have lived in a perfect state of denial since then).
I also have to think of the first time we did a 5,000m run in school when I saw half the people standing and gasping after 400m. They could have walked on, which would have gotten them at least half as fast closer to the target, but they preferred to stand in groups and claim they can't do no more.
There is a spiritual dimension to the problem, but as Lyric Suite's case showed it is probably too hard topic for Codex.
There is a spiritual dimension to the problem, but as Lyric Suite's case showed it is probably too hard topic for Codex.
Lyric Suite just desperately needs to get laid, that's all he is lacking.
still what?
Biological determinism.still what?
Still the question remains. Of the nature of the depression I mean.