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[Dawkinsfan69]

 

[anvi]

Tell me when RDW is dead.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[spectre]

Nobody plays rdw in historic, GR seems to be much better overall (though it also uses Cleave, so trigger warning for your vietnam flashbacks). Although I've seen a recent article on it on channelfrajerball, so fully I expect to bump into a few.

For Bo1 standard, as long as the pieces are there, people will play it as the go-to grind deck. Funny thing, it's exploitable as fuck, I just did two 7:0 standard events with anti-aggro Fires (only met 3 RDWs each run, which was a bit of a shocker, I remember where you could play more than seven of those).

 

[anvi]

I made an anti aggro fires deck too, but yeah, game only matches me against counterspell decks or something.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

Alright this one I just made is sick - Historic clover tap'n'mill

Deck
4 Lucky Clover (ELD) 226
4 Queen of Ice (ELD) 61
2 Mystic Sanctuary (ELD) 247
4 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39
2 Fae of Wishes (ELD) 44
4 Leyline of Anticipation (M20) 64
4 Unsummon (M20) 78
2 Run Away Together (ELD) 62
1 River's Rebuke (XLN) 71
3 Verity Circle (RNA) 58
4 Sleep (M19) 74
4 Icy Manipulator (DAR) 219
20 Island (THB) 251
2 Castle Vantress (ELD) 242

Sideboard
2 River's Rebuke (XLN) 71
1 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries (WAR) 54
2 Clear the Mind (RNA) 34
2 Mirrormade (ELD) 55
4 Flood of Recollection (RIX) 38
3 Ashiok's Erasure (THB) 43
1 The Immortal Sun (RIX) 180

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Not too far off from being playable in standard either.. Just need to swap out a few things here and there.

Nothing feels better than brazen bouncing opponent's full board when a few clovers are out. Then you can just unsummon him and do it again

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

so... is new set still happening? Afaik there were no spoilers so far? Or are they going to delay release until I got all the cosmetics and 100k gold for drafts?

Paper release was delayed, digital release isn't. It'll be on April 14th or something, I don't remember when.

 

[anvi]

New cards are coming soon? A whole new set?

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

New cards are coming soon? A whole new set?

Yep. Not really any card spoilers yet, but we'll be getting them soon. https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Ikoria:_Lair_of_Behemoths

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

Alright this one I just made is sick - Historic clover tap'n'mill

DO NOT copy this deck it's trash i think i just got lucky in a few games now it's getting recked like ive never been recked before need to fix this shit

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

I tried to build a deck like that a while back but I could never get it to work. I think the power level is just too low. I keep getting matched against this green elfball deck and by turn 4 or 5 they have a dickload of crap on the board and they're drawing 3-4 cards per turn, it's hard to keep up.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

so ive spent a lot of wildcards on this and i lose every game, plz halp

/ourrapist/ Todd Stevens has played decks along those lines, and they usually get their shit pushed in. Fun to fuck around with but not really a gud gitter. He's abandoned ship for Runeterra but this is (I think) the last time he played a deck like that if you want to compare notes. He is playing wh*te though for wipes, but you could probably do tolerably well replacing those wraths with soot. Maybe. I don't play historic. His gameplan seems a little different than yours too, since he's relying on big snakes and Tezzeret zaps rather than going wide and pumping with overseers. His Sais shitting out tokens are more to feed Tezzeret and for chump blockers rather than a wincon I believe.

 

[spectre]

You can salvage some of it to build a Kethis Kombo Kontraption, though that would be using white, so yeah. All that Glitters is a major power boost for such decks, but I understand that one's a no-go.

You can try and make it more beatdown oriented. Ornithopters will have to go, instead use something like Voltaic Servant (to untap overseers and things), Stonecoil Serpends,
Skilled Animators, Traxos, Scourge of Kroog, maybe Gingerbrute. Add a few Mobilized Districts too., since you should be having enough legendaries.

If you want to have a more controlling approach, you need a few more mana sources (Powerstone Shards maybe? Nyx Lotus if you can provide devotion?) and a few more reset buttons (Rivers Rebuke).
Don't have time to give you a more detailed list right now, but that's what I'd work with.

 

[anvi]

it was like 20 rare and mythic wc

Welcome to my world I tried a deck like that in Standard a while back and it sucked. Just when you finally manage to get some creatures out and start pumping them, they do a board wipe.

 

[anvi]

All that Glitters is so strong. Even if gets killed, it only needs to be able to attack a couple of times to do major damage or even win.

 

[spectre]

If the plan's is to make the most out of Steel Overseer, Saheeli, Sublime Artificer is one of the best token generators you can get with low cost artifacts.
Depose // Deploy and Dovin Banana suffer from a bad case it's okay to be white, but I would use them with such an approach. Yeah, all that glitters will make it grow big,
so I would definitely protect it with spell pierces.

For artifact animation route, you also got Animating Faerie. Antiquities War is another great finisher, though you may have thrown enough rares at it.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

lmao

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[spectre]

Here's what threw together in my spare time, maybe it can give you some inspiration:

Spoiler

Deck
4 Emry, Lurker of the Loch (ELD) 43
16 Island (UND) 89
4 Witching Well (ELD) 74
4 Negate (M20) 69
4 Saheeli, Sublime Artificer (WAR) 234
4 Sage of Lat-Nam (DAR) 64
1 Tezzeret, Artifice Master (M19) 79
2 Steel Overseer (M20) 239
4 Mox Amber (DAR) 224
4 Mind Stone (WTH) 153
2 Stonecoil Serpent (ELD) 235
2 The Antiquities War (DAR) 42
4 Animating Faerie (ELD) 38
2 Lonely Sandbar (ONS) 320
3 Zhalfirin Void (DAR) 249

It's not very competitive by any means, but might work as a casual deck - it can produce lulzy boardstates on turn 6 with 10+ 7/7 artifact tokens, which is probably a bit too late for serious play.
That's all Tezerrets, Overseers and Antiquities Wars that I got (would put in more wars if I had them). the UB tezz is a bit shit if you ask me, and Artifice Master is a bit overcosted though it does "draw two cards every turn" pretty much always.
There's some pretty cool combos to do with Mox, Mind Stone, Emry and Pajeetina, didn't have time to seriously figure out Animating Faerie vs. Skilled Animator, but faerie triggers Pajeeti.
Since you have a full set of Overseers, if you're looking to do broken things with them, he really does great work with repeated untap effects. Even with the two that I have, I was able to generate a boatload of counters by copying it with a servo.
Corridor Monitor and Voltaic Servant immediately spring to mind if you want more of this gig, though it's going to be a bit of a dead end if you don't want to use All that Glitters.

Otherwise, you'll have to wait until the cunts decide to finally implement Aether Revolt.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

lol what is this meme set

i wish they'd do a baseball card crossover I wanna play TIM TEBOW - OUTFIELDER 1/2 dEATHTOUCH

 

[new fucking guy]

flavour is meh but cards are cool
fyi I already tried to build this for omniscience and it's crap

I also don't like how there have been a value engine dork for every fucking mechanic in the past few sets and the trend continues

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG