World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[fantadomat]

Wesp5 so i read somewhere that the cab driver's files are with prefix caine,is that true mate?

 

[Lacrymas]

Do you seriously have problems with telling the difference between an active agent and a passive object? You, of all ex-twinks?

In the context of what you are saying, yes.

 

[fantadomat]

If that is true,then why are you even arguing? It is clear who the cab driver is.

 

[Lacrymas]

Read the discussion?

 

[Storyfag]

Do you seriously have problems with telling the difference between an active agent and a passive object? You, of all ex-twinks?

In the context of what you are saying, yes.

How could the Sarcophagus tell Caine of its experiences?

 

[Delterius]

My character lost his dad in a car crash, leading him down a path of self destructive drug consumption, casual sex and shopping at hot topic. The cabbie is just an ordinary person, one of many who ferried the neonate around for a petty buck.

But in our hero's mind there was this reliable father figure projected onto them, corrupted by the Blood into an image of the all-father. Bloodlines was actually the struggle between the Egos. A desire to conform and prosper via Cain, the rather business like choffeur, but also to rebel and, eventually, meet with the Final Death in Jack the pirate.

Needless to say, there never was a Jack either. This battle can be verified as 'Jack' helped the PC survive the ambush in Griffith Park by pure instinct, but it was 'Caine' who took the wheel as it were, ie, took control of the situation and patiently employed the Socratic Method (Ancient Greece was the most fatherly of civilizations) to coax an answer from his progeny and deliver them towards a future paved with the blood of their enemies.

In the end, the extremes of the human mind are reconciled and seen fraternizing on the Holywood hills, smoking some rather fat joints. Peace is reached, wether it be in the tranquility of Death or the firm certainty of oneself and the future.

 

[Cael]

If that is true,then why are you even arguing? It is clear who the cab driver is.

Codexians...

 

[ArchAngel]

If that is true,then why are you even arguing? It is clear who the cab driver is.

Because above all else Codex needs to prove that "Everything is shit."

 

[fantadomat]

If that is true,then why are you even arguing? It is clear who the cab driver is.

Because above all else Codex needs to prove that "Everything is shit."

Or they are getting mental with all that isolation and just seek any type of attention.

 

[Lacrymas]

This has been a talking point since Bloodlines came out.

 

[Roguey]

If that is true,then why are you even arguing? It is clear who the cab driver is.

Troika's intent is irrelevant when it's not their license, setting, characters.

 

[hello friend]

lol why can't bloodlines just be non canon

Troika's intent is absolutely relevant to the plot of their own game. If they made Caine the cab driver, then he clearly is the cab driver, regardless of whether or not it breaks the lore.

 

[Delterius]

lol why can't bloodlines just be non canon

do you want to sell more games or not

 

[Infinitron]

That makes me think: Unlike the first game, this time the owner of the World of Darkness is also the publisher of the video game. So Bloodlines 2 might potentially do crazier things with the canon.

 

[jungl]

Things are crazier now. https://youtu.be/LHs30YPRtGo

Dales backstory explained.

 

[Wesp5]

Wesp5 so i read somewhere that the cab driver's files are with prefix caine,is that true mate?

Yes, the Cabbie's dialogue file is called Caine and he is also called Caine in the Python scripts and the maps themselves. So it's certainly not just a joke one of the developers pulled on the others! Also regarding to the question "And what exactly is he testing by empowering the PC?", you all overlook that he is testing the player too. Like what will a common freshly embraced vampire do if he gets such powers as the player has in the end? And both Cabbie and Jack even included a safety precaution for this, because if the player succumbs to the power the C4 explosion will kill and remove him.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

God bless you, Wesp5.

 

[Prime Junta]

You know what'd be cool? If they built on the Bishop Vic questline, there could be a plaguebearer and it could break out into the general kine population and there could be a pandemic and everybody would need to stay locked in and there would be a general economic collapse and mass unemployment and and and

 

[fantadomat]

Wesp5 so i read somewhere that the cab driver's files are with prefix caine,is that true mate?

Yes, the Cabbie's dialogue file is called Caine and he is also called Caine in the Python scripts and the maps themselves. So it's certainly not just a joke one of the developers pulled on the others! Also regarding to the question "And what exactly is he testing by empowering the PC?", you all overlook that he is testing the player too. Like what will a common freshly embraced vampire do if he gets such powers as the player has in the end? And both Cabbie and Jack even included a safety precaution for this, because if the player succumbs to the power the C4 explosion will kill and remove him.

You are over thinking it,it just an easter egg for the players to find,or part of some cut content.

 

[Storyfag]

If that is true,then why are you even arguing? It is clear who the cab driver is.

Troika's intent is irrelevant when it's not their license, setting, characters.

Au contraire, as the creators of Bloodlines, their intent has the highest relevance when considered within the scope of Bloodlines. In the scope of the wider body of canon, I still prefer Bloodlines over the Gehenna novel.

 

[normie]

Wesp5 so i read somewhere that the cab driver's files are with prefix caine,is that true mate?

Yes, the Cabbie's dialogue file is called Caine and he is also called Caine in the Python scripts and the maps themselves. So it's certainly not just a joke one of the developers pulled on the others! Also regarding to the question "And what exactly is he testing by empowering the PC?", you all overlook that he is testing the player too. Like what will a common freshly embraced vampire do if he gets such powers as the player has in the end? And both Cabbie and Jack even included a safety precaution for this, because if the player succumbs to the power the C4 explosion will kill and remove him.

You are over thinking it,it just an easter egg for the players to find,or part of some cut content.

you're confused, he's referring to the possibility of you opening the sarcophagus

 

[fantadomat]

Wesp5 so i read somewhere that the cab driver's files are with prefix caine,is that true mate?

Yes, the Cabbie's dialogue file is called Caine and he is also called Caine in the Python scripts and the maps themselves. So it's certainly not just a joke one of the developers pulled on the others! Also regarding to the question "And what exactly is he testing by empowering the PC?", you all overlook that he is testing the player too. Like what will a common freshly embraced vampire do if he gets such powers as the player has in the end? And both Cabbie and Jack even included a safety precaution for this, because if the player succumbs to the power the C4 explosion will kill and remove him.

You are over thinking it,it just an easter egg for the players to find,or part of some cut content.

you're confused, he's referring to the possibility of you opening the sarcophagus

I know what he is talking about,i have replayed the game quite a few times. Devs most likely put him in because he is cool and mysterious. Not because there some hidden meaning of testing the player and the protagonist lol. We are taking about people that made their dream game,and was called outer worlds. While the writer still wears fingerless gloves in his 40ies lol.

 

[Comrade Goby]

lol why can't bloodlines just be non canon

Troika's intent is absolutely relevant to the plot of their own game. If they made Caine the cab driver, then he clearly is the cab driver, regardless of whether or not it breaks the lore.

Especially when new canon is straight trash.

Its why KOTOR 1 and 2 are the only old republic things and the new Disney stuff can fuck off and doesn't exist no matter how canon they call it

 

[normie]

Wesp5 so i read somewhere that the cab driver's files are with prefix caine,is that true mate?

Yes, the Cabbie's dialogue file is called Caine and he is also called Caine in the Python scripts and the maps themselves. So it's certainly not just a joke one of the developers pulled on the others! Also regarding to the question "And what exactly is he testing by empowering the PC?", you all overlook that he is testing the player too. Like what will a common freshly embraced vampire do if he gets such powers as the player has in the end? And both Cabbie and Jack even included a safety precaution for this, because if the player succumbs to the power the C4 explosion will kill and remove him.

You are over thinking it,it just an easter egg for the players to find,or part of some cut content.

you're confused, he's referring to the possibility of you opening the sarcophagus

I know what he is talking about,i have replayed the game quite a few times. Devs most likely put him in because he is cool and mysterious. Not because there some hidden meaning of testing the player and the protagonist lol. We are taking about people that made their dream game,and was called outer worlds. While the writer still wears fingerless gloves in his 40ies lol.

well, yeah, there's that, Bloodlines is not some great contribution to "tha canon" authored by people with due reverence, but a rollercoaster within the setting centered around the player experience, ultimately wowing the player with big daddy Caine's presence - even so, Caine was also intentionally built up to effect and purpose

you spend the game being manipulated by elders too absorbed with their own schemes while you, the player, are revealed the real manipulation at play with a wink and a nod

the writing in the game does toy with the idea that this is some sort of scheme to judge or test the local vampire society, and that you are either a blunt instrument in the scheme who's of no particular consequence or that you're instrumentalised to such effect specifically because you are young, unaffiliated and not set in your ways, with no sire to jerk you around, effectively through narrative aligning the player's motivation with the player character's - but at the same time it also does the "I am beyond your comprehension" bit in an attempt to leave Caine's reasons alien and vague and have it both ways, it just is what it is

 

[Storyfag]

but at the same time it also does the "I am beyond your comprehension" bit in an attempt to leave Caine's reasons alien and vague and have it both ways, it just is what it is

Cryptic maybe. But not beyond comprehension. Just pay attention to Beckett. Maaaaybe some more Noddist loredumps would be in order to make the comprehension of Caine/bbe easier.