Wizardry What is the best mainline Wizardry game?

[samuraigaiden]

Legacy of Llylgamyn is underrated AF. It rebalances and perfects the system from the first game, while adding new weapons and enemies. It's easily the best game in the original trilogy.

 

[octavius]

6, 1 and 5 are all solid. 4 is special. 2 is too short. 7 is too long. 3 is too unbalanced.
And I see Lady Error hasn't voted yet, as there are no votes for 7.

 

[Comte]

Grimoire

 

[Tom Baker's Arse]

Wizardry 4 was a game unlike any other. A rare jewel.

 

[Reality]

I can't go for 3 because riddle boss vaguely annoys me.(The Priests of Fung are the true final boss I guess) So it's a toss up between 1 and 5 for me.

 

[croitav]

mondblut
Which one is the best?

 

[mondblut]

mondblut
Which one is the best?

VII, of course.

 

[croitav]

VII, of course.

Thank you.

 

[Serus]

6, 1 and 5 are all solid. 4 is special. 2 is too short. 7 is too long. 3 is too unbalanced.
And I see Lady Error hasn't voted yet, as there are no votes for 7.

How is 7 too long? The game is only too long if it's uneven in quality, especially if later parts are unfinished or less interesting to play. Do you really think that's the case here?

I voted 7 but to be honest i only played 7, 8 and tried 6 for a moment or two. I know, those parts are popamole compared to first 5.

 

[fishdoggames]

Man my favorite will always be Wizardry 7, first one i played was wizardry 1 for the nes i rented it fro a grocery store way way back in the days. but i would have to say the wizardry series is one of the best man!

 

[fishdoggames]

mondblut
Which one is the best?

VII, of course.

Have not figured out how to brofist yet man! but you got one for sure VII is the best hands down

 

[fishdoggames]

6, 1 and 5 are all solid. 4 is special. 2 is too short. 7 is too long. 3 is too unbalanced.
And I see Lady Error hasn't voted yet, as there are no votes for 7.

How is 7 too long? The game is only too long if it's uneven in quality, especially if later parts are unfinished or less interesting to play. Do you really think that's the case here?

I voted 7 but to be honest i only played 7, 8 and tried 6 for a moment or two. I know, those parts are popamole compared to first 5.

The best rpgs for computers have been the ones that were to long...wizardry 7, mm6, ultima 6 and 7, omg must i go on? those are games i would put up against any game now a days poe, poe2 and so on.

 

[Reality]

I would never try to fight things like wiz 6 Tyrannosaurs or the last two Gorrors in 7 - but just getting to the normal endgame levels doesn't feel like too much

I think that the main game and "medium" optional content like the 4 Isle of Dead Bosses in 6 and the weaker 3 Gorrors are okay lengthwise, although maybe areas with robot random encounters grind on a little too.

In terms of raw map square Wiz 7 isn't a slouch

Here's a "all area interconnected map"

https://www.oldgames.sk/images/oldgames/rpg/Wizardry.7/Map/Wizardry7-Mapd.png

I can't find a wizard 6 map shown the same way but the total of the big areas - Castle + Mines + Pyramid + River Styx + Isle of the dead + Forest - and adding the small areas like Hazard + Swamp + Isle of the Damned + Temple of Ramm adds up to a lot smaller game.

My guess would be about 5/8 of the raw overworld of Wiz 7 (not counting ANY of the indoor areas in Wiz 7 shown on the right of this picture at all)

 

[fishdoggames]

I would never try to fight things like wiz 6 Tyrannosaurs or the last two Gorrors in 7 - but just getting to the normal endgame levels doesn't feel like too much

I think that the main game and "medium" optional content like the 4 Isle of Dead Bosses in 6 and the weaker 3 Gorrors are okay lengthwise, although maybe areas with robot random encounters grind on a little too.

In terms of raw map square Wiz 7 isn't a slouch

Here's a "all area interconnected map"

https://www.oldgames.sk/images/oldgames/rpg/Wizardry.7/Map/Wizardry7-Mapd.png

I can't find a wizard 6 map shown the same way but the total of the big areas - Castle + Mines + Pyramid + River Styx + Isle of the dead + Forest - and adding the small areas like Hazard + Swamp + Isle of the Damned + Temple of Ramm adds up to a lot smaller game.

My guess would be about 5/8 of the raw overworld of Wiz 7 (not counting ANY of the indoor areas in Wiz 7 shown on the right of this picture at all)

May I ask why you wouldnt fight them? i mean rexx in wiz7 was bad ass i had fun, Godzilla in 7 was even harder but i loved the fight. Heck man i thought the harder fights were the savant troopers with there para spears 75% it sucks when all your tanks are para'd and mages up front and no magic power to cast spells lol

 

[Dramart]

If 6 and 7 are the best I imagine how bad the other ones are.

 

[fishdoggames]

If 6 and 7 are the best I imagine how bad the other ones are.

Oh no the others are good too, I loved 1 and 5 i played 2 and 3 on nes so i could not vouch for them on pc. but 6 and 7 opened up a whole other can of worms lol

 

[Sweeper]

I only played 8, so I voted for that one.

 

[fishdoggames]

I only played 8, so I voted for that one.

8 is good too bro

 

[newtmonkey]

I'm torn between Wiz 1 and Wiz 5, but decided to go with Wiz 5 for its expanded gameplay mechanics and lack of "filler" floors. Having said that, I think I enjoyed Wiz 1 slightly more.

 

[Ysaye]

For those that voted for Wiz 6, why did you vote that over Wiz 7? Note it is not a criticism, there are things I like better in 6 (and I have ultimately voted for Wiz 1), but just would love to hear an argument....

 

[octavius]

6, 1 and 5 are all solid. 4 is special. 2 is too short. 7 is too long. 3 is too unbalanced.
And I see Lady Error hasn't voted yet, as there are no votes for 7.

How is 7 too long? The game is only too long if it's uneven in quality, especially if later parts are unfinished or less interesting to play. Do you really think that's the case here?

It's too long because all the wandering NPC parties are dead halfway through the game. And if the encounter rate was halved it would have improved considerably. Fighting the same limited types of encounters combined with no random loot means the game drags on too long for my taste.
But it does have some late game fun in the form of the Gorrors, though.

 

[MpuMngwana]

If 6 and 7 are the best I imagine how bad the other ones are.

Much better.

Wizardry 6 is a fine game, but 7 is shit. I half-believe it's some sort of inside joke on this forum to pretend to like Wizardry 7, I don't see how someone could enjoy that bloated autistic mess.

Early Wizardries are fast-paced and straightforward, some of the most tense games I've played; while Wizardry 8 manages to turn Wiz7's systems into something actually enjoyable, replaces dice rolls with point buy (as befits a game where you're not supposed to permanently lose party members), and is generally much less of a save scumming simulator than the previous two titles.

 

[Serus]

If 6 and 7 are the best I imagine how bad the other ones are.

Much better.

Wizardry 6 is a fine game, but 7 is shit. I half-believe it's some sort of inside joke on this forum to pretend to like Wizardry 7, I don't see how someone could enjoy that bloated autistic mess.

Early Wizardries are fast-paced and straightforward, some of the most tense games I've played; while Wizardry 8 manages to turn Wiz7's systems into something actually enjoyable, replaces dice rolls with point buy (as befits a game where you're not supposed to permanently lose party members), and is generally much less of a save scumming simulator than the previous two titles.

Two edgelords exchanging thoughts. Usual day at the Codex.

 

[Incendax]

Wizardry 6 is excellent and has good pacing. But it definitely lacks some advances that came in 7.
Wizardry 7 is probably the best combination of world building and exploration. My vote for best overall, even with some flaws.
Wizardry 8 starts out great and everyone remembers that part fondly, but the second half is basically empty and unfinished.

 

[Dorateen]

Bradley Wizardries still leading.