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Alaloth: Champions of the Four Kingdoms - ARPG with dynamic overworld - also MCA as a consultant

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by LESS T_T, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. Alberto Belli Gamera Interactive Developer

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    The interesting thing IMHO is thinking that someone can actually judge someone else, his life, his habits, his work without knowing him at all. Starting from a trailer from a high-fantasy RPG. Year 2019.
     
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  2. Alberto Belli Gamera Interactive Developer

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    Nothing bad because nothing you are actually saying has any sense and you just writing random stuff talking about someone you don't know as racist/misogynist/whatever, being probably the only one really aggressive. Which is fun in some way, as 90% of the SJW topics around. Feeling guilty for putting a ratman in a trailer? Sorry, INT 18+3 here. Rolled a smart char at time. The problem IMHO is not about feeling represented. Is about thinking that if the content A is in, it is automatically hating content B. Because it's about contents. Super easy sample of how it works in the real world: we are probably going to have male playable characters only. And you know why? You are probably thinking that we hate women. The truth is that female chars mean a lot of different motion cap sessions, extra dubbing, tons of custom armor sets and extra design. And more. Which mean extra money. We are not mysogynist. We are just a small indie team and i've to pay people and bills. If i've to choose, no female playable chars and a few more money to make my team happy and deliver. And if you say "Why not female chars only instead?". Because RPG players, our target, is a male target playing male chars usually. Data. Nothing more. Would be great someday to became a huge team and make everyone happy with huge budgets and infinite time to put in all the requested contents from anyone in the world. But again, real world is quiet different. And has nothing to do with racism/misogyny and the other social stuff that should be discussed in other terms. Giulia hails you. If you want to know more about WIGJ, just poke. Best
     
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  3. Iluvcheezcake Savant

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    Don't feed the trolls.
     
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  4. Alberto Belli Gamera Interactive Developer

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    True. You are right
     
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  5. Trans-Financial-Man Savant

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    Need to see gameplay before I have an opinion on the game. Having Chris Avellone come in to change your lightbulbs a couple of times isn't enough to inspire confidence in me.
     
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  6. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Does this game have barbarians?
     
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  7. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    orks
     
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  8. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Barbarians you knife ear sympathizer.
     
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  9. cherry blossom Arcane

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    :roll:

    I haven't called you any of those names and I said it was a joke. I commented on what was personally relevant to me: not being thrilled with the only representation of women in the video being that of a reference to a family and that of a helpless victim, with a "suggestive" (to my mind) monster, but somebody's precious ego couldn't handle that.

    And the question isn't even one of "how you not make equal representation! I demand equality!" but rather one of why it comes out the way it did and if it is "somehow" a coincidence that it came out that way at all. You are of course free to interpret this the other way and pull a "SJWS ATTACK MAH GMAE, IMMA BE OPPRESSED!". Imagine being a woman and seeing this bullshit all the time.

    And ironically enough, it is now on the table that it will (most likely) be a dudebro game. Good to know!

    At least try and be honest about it. You've got the budget for ( I quote Steam page description, with a typo bolded ) "mutilations, executions and spectaular moves [...] with tons of dangerous enemies, ranging from small creatures to huge dragons" but not for a female PC? The game even has female NPCs. Maybe it is true, that I really don't "understand how game development and real world works and screw the female demographics anyway" but, well... you know who else uses the same kind of excuse on this matter? AAA game studios sitting on hundred-millions of dollars of budget. So clearly, it is a matter of priorities.

    You want to make a dudebro game, make a dudebro game without the bullshit. I have no problem with that. It is just that these days, one usually expects to have the option in "RPGs".

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Orks are barbarians you stump-manlet sympathizer.
     
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  11. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Uh oh. Next you are going to be going into random topics here and posting stuff like this:
    Show Spoiler
    :liberals:

    .. Welcome to the Codex I guess :evilcodex:
     
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  12. ZagorTeNej Arcane

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    Don't worry about it, just make the game you want (and can afford) to make.

    Catering to your primary demographic (whether on Indie or AAA level) is not immoral or wrong, it's just business 101.
     
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  13. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Orcs are orcs. The subsets do not always overlap.
    Treefucker.
     
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  14. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Yeah sure......in the modern nu rpgs. Only real ork is the savage barbarian type of ork.
    Oresucker!
     
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  15. Rahdulan Arcane Patron

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    Serbian RPG dude did a summary video.

     
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  16. Mikeal Cipher

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    Seriously I'm so fucking tired of soul-like shit.
     
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  17. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    The worst thing is that it means nothing outside off "muh checkpoints".
     
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  18. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    https://steamcommunity.com/games/919360/announcements/detail/1697224156982024259

     
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  19. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    If the combat doesn't devolve into mindless, hack-n-slash, the game might have some potential.
     
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