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Assassin's Creed Odyssey, set in ancient Greece - it's definitely an RPG now

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Infinitron, May 31, 2018.

  1. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Read some greek books and history! You sound like a brainwashed american. Faggotry was always looked down up in history. A bunch of liberal retards decided to say that the times were gay and stupid people just believed it!
     
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  2. glass blackbird Learned Patron

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    Elsewhere Plato does condemn homosexuality, so no, people were not all OK with it, but it's pretty clear that it's a thing that went on
     
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  3. Gerrard Arcane

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    "Gaming is not about entertainment"
     
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  4. glass blackbird Learned Patron

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    That video is fucking retarded though and Ubisoft is full of dipshits who don't know about history so whatever, I'm sure the rest of the game is all bullshit too

    I remember someone showed me a part from Origins in the "educational "commentary thing where they explain that women wouldn't be allowed to study in such a place at that time but they added them for diversity. like what the hell is the point then? doesn't make sense for historicity and doesn't make sense for social justice because they immediate explain, no, this is lies, this is fiction we made up. just present reality, egypt is interesting, fucking twats
     
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  5. I want to be Life Coach Grorious Reader Patron

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  6. aweigh Arcane

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    expecting a game dev to be knowledgeable about history when most can't even string together a competent dialog tree lmao
     
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  7. DeepOcean Arcane

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    I find this idea of falsifying the past really dishonest too, if they shown the real Greece like it was that time (Women are to make babies and shut up.) and democracy was only for those of the elite with most of the working class being slaves, you know, the horror of realizing that slavery having nothing to do with race and being more of a question of opportunity where on the ancient world, white europeans were pretty willing of slaving other white europeans.

    If they show the truth, retarded people on the left would flip out seeing that maybe denouncing and wanting to destroy the western world isn't such a great idea when what existed before wasn't exactly a paradise of freedom and they are spoiled children complaining over turned milk when the west is a much better place for the working class and minorities than on past ages. On greece, imagine if you were condemned by God of being born a slave under Sparta rule, compare such a person torment with fat people with six children under welfare whining that their lives are really though and people are oppressing them. It would be very enlightening to take modern activists on a time machine and make them slaves under Sparta rule so they could experience at first hand the bullshitters they are and they know nothing what is to live in fear.

    But what can you do? Ubisoft is too cowardly to do such a thing, much better to falsify history with rainbows of gender ideology. If Kassandra entered on a boat full of greek mariners pretending to lead them, lets say things would get a little rapey pretty quickly.
     
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  8. jf8350143 Educated

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    Early choices are mostly just minor ones with barely any consequences. But later game has some more impact options for you to pick, both in major missions and in side missions. There is one choice early on that will lock out one of the solutions for another quest dozens of hours later.
     
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  9. Molina Educated

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    You should try to build a safe space, you seems very offended by a videogame,SWJ and their domination. It's ok, we totally understand. Maybe a good twitter war would do you any good?
     
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  10. Prime Junta Arcane

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    Thing about Kassandra is, it's a huge missed opportunity. In ancient Greece, gods were allowed to break any and all rules all the time. So all it would've taken to make a somewhat plausible Kassandra regarded with fear and awe by men and women alike is the Oracle of Delphi pronouncing that she is a daughter of Ares or chosen of Athena, Artemis, the Erinyes, or whatever, destined to slay armies of men and drench the world in blood. IOW your bog-standard Chosen One thing that would actually make sense in context.

    But they didn't. It could've been a righteously furious feminist (moon-)blood drenched epic. Instead they took the easy, lazy option of erasing the incredibly nasty patriarchy that was Ancient Greece, right down to making the Spartans shout "for our daughters!"
     
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  11. rusty_shackleford Savant

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    not much has changed
     
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  12. illuknisaa Learned

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  13. baud Learned

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    I think there's a basis for that. In Sparta, husbands who were unable to impregnate their wives would ask younger men to do it instead. Apparently sexuality in Sparta was rather free regarding mariage fidelity, but all in the goal of making strong and fit children.
     
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  14. aweigh Arcane

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    Just like modern day codexers :)
     
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  15. Prime Junta Arcane

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    Spartan women were baby-incubators and not a whole lot more. A man who loved his wife would be considered effeminate. It was like the ultimate dudebro jock culture except the dudebros also banged each other, in-between marching at enemies in tight, hot, sweaty, naked phalanxes.
     
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  16. Serus Arcane

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    Take into account that the classic Spartan society you've read about in school is how Sparta looked in classical period. That society collapsed at some point later on. The game takes place in Hellenic period. Not saying the portrayal in game is accurate (I wouldn't know, I haven't played it) but seeing a fifth century Sparta in game would be as inaccurate. Just something to remember.
     
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  17. BlackAdderBG Arcane Patron

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    But not a random stranger, it had to be close relative often a brother or father.
    As for homos, they were common and somewhat accepted thing ONLY in high society, never for common people. Also most common is for the aristocrat to have a boy with lower status, if they had same status it was illegal and punishable. In Athens that practice was prosecuted for example.
     
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  18. jarmaro Arbiter

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    Well, from what I've seen people half-jokingly, half-not consider you demi-god. Your ship ex-captain Barnabas says it all the time. You can also state that multiple times when people ask you for help.
    Alexios and Kassandra are also considered extremely capable, beceause of their powerful blood (lineage), which in fact they have, as they got much of ISU genetics. They are literally Ubermensch.
     
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  19. jarmaro Arbiter

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    From I remember from history books, Spartan women had more rights than other Greek women.
    They could inherit (though not as much as their brothers), ruled the slaves & homes, and were also encouraged to physcial activity such as running etc.
    But it's true they were gay as fuck.
     
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  20. Prime Junta Arcane

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    Exactly. Which is why it would have been such... a... small... step... to tie turn you into a heroic exception to the way women were expected to behave.

    Seriously bros, this is the difference between pandering and seriously addressing an issue.
     
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  21. Outlander Custom Tags Are For Fags. Patron

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    Ok here we go:

     
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  22. Mark.L.Joy Learned

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    Statue's dong is too big, Greeks thought big dongs were ridiculous and only degenerates had big dicks + pleasuring women is dishonorable and you shouldn't care about anything women want.
     
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  23. Prime Junta Arcane

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    This is true. I would expect small dicks were better suited for the kind of sex they did appreciate.

    Edit: The uproar would've been glorious if they had implemented the historically authentic Spartan romance option though
     
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  24. Bocian Arcane

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    They weren't. Most Greek poleis outlawed sodomy. If anything, it was platonic love, not physical. Greek homosexuality is massively over-exaggerated.
     
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  25. Mark.L.Joy Learned

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    Yep, we are gayer than the Greeks.
     
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