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Incline ATOM RPG: Trudograd - standalone expansion sequel to ATOM RPG - now available on Early Access

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Abu Antar, Apr 18, 2020.

  1. AlsGaming Literate

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    Haven't played much ATOM since the full release, so playing in the new area with all the new features and improvements that have been added between then and now is going to be even more fun. :cool:
     
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  2. Yosharian Cipher

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    I still need to play the original... Anyone got a good build?

    I like being smart and charismatic and shooting things with an AK-47
     
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  3. Darth Canoli Cipher

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    Looks like you got your build already...

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    It's gonna suck though ... This isn't Fallout, you can't outrun everything, you'll drown in your own blood times and again.


    I'm advising for either smart or charismatic and you want some HP.
     
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  4. jackofshadows Learned

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    Since dialogues and companions are godawful in this game, I'd advise against charisma investment entirely, just start as a wahman to get the ability to utilize extra char-buffs if absolutely necessary. As for int - it's a bit tricky. I'd say 8 is the optimal but no big spoiler that
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    there's respec potion later in the game so you can eigher pump it up at the start or simply ignore and set 8 for checks

    Agility is the best stat, no suprizes there, perseption 6-7 is enough, str 6, end 8 (6 at least), the rest dump in luck.
    Automatic weapons - good choice although there's not much useful skills overall so yo can raise one more combat-related as well. For solo run pistols are very nice because you can use shields (that's right) with'em and end turn with it every time for insane defensive bonuses.
     
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  5. flushfire Augur

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    There's no need to dump Personality as long as you dump Luck, which is an all-or-nothing stat anyway.
     
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  6. jackofshadows Learned

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    I disagree. It's no Fallout, so even beyond CS usefulness and extremely high luck stuff it affects caravan appearing frequency (which is quite useful although not as in older patches), the loot overall (including chance of some rare things at the caravans again), amount of shahids among cultists and apparently more minor stuff which I'm just not aware of.

    Sòren what's the matter? It's the second time I'm getting this rating for calling ATOM's writing shit and perhaps some time later I'll write a proper rant about it because it still haunts me but for now I just gotta say this: I've played it on russian. Maybe, just maybe, Atomboy did a great job making it much more tolerable but it was painful, terrible experience to me.
     
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  7. flushfire Augur

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    Is there any proof of these? I have done a run with max luck and noticed no difference.

    Edit: even Atomboy has said it only affects crit, some skills and some checks.
     
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  8. jackofshadows Learned

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    Tbh, no (at least I haven't seen any). Just my observations and some other player's. For instance, I spend few months in Peregon trying to get BZT-75 with low luck char. But when I played last time with 8 - rolled it (on ~same level) for a few days. Could be coinsidence (or just a hidden patch change), sure, but it was a very long grindy run and I did feel a difference regarding loot overall.

    Thing is, since END can be buffed before tough fights, AP already maxed as well as picked skills and there's enough str/per for chosen weapons there's no other stat which require raising anyway. And even charisma can be buffed if needed.
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    by 7 for women I beleive which is kinda ridiculous
     
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  9. Feyd Rautha Cipher Patron

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    Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    does luck affect crtitical chance and stuff in combat like hit or miss?
     
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  10. jackofshadows Learned

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    Good to know that I was wrong then. I mean, apparently they did tweak some stuff like trader's values through the patches. Although my reasoning about high enough for some stats are still stands I think because crit chance is quite significant.
     
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  11. Yosharian Cipher

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    Sooo... Is it a good build or not?

    Quite happy to dump CHA if it's not super useful
     
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  12. jackofshadows Learned

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    I went with very similiar (6/8/10/8/7/rest+free from trait+gimmicks etc, the game has hidden ways to raise stats a bit) except with rifles/shotguns+pistols/SMG and mentioned shield end turn idea. And, well, it's kinda embarassing to tell but I died on pre-final fight by some crazy-crazy chance (the guy with mashinegun got me). Needless to say it was survival difficulty and I did more tougher fights actually on that run so I think build is still quite good.

    CHA is not useless but for the most part it just allows to know more about bunch of certain NPCs (otherwise they do not bother to tell). Although you're already know my opinion on that. However iirc some quests require that approach but it possible to use buffs beforehand as I said before. It also affect fuckableness but I'm sure you'd rather skip that aspect in ATOM entirely.
     
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  13. Sykar Arcane

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    Nothing ridiculous about that:
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  14. Yosharian Cipher

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    Alright thanks for the tips.
     
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  15. Jinn Arcane

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    So while I've enjoyed ATOM RPG quite a bit, my biggest problem with it would have to be an unbalanced pacing in terms of gameplay vs. dialogue. I know talking to NPCs is optional, but it's also one of the only ways you can find quests and progress. I've often times felt bogged down when I've booted up the game to find I've got 10 NPCs around me with page after page of text to read, or quickly get dialogue fatigued when I enter a new area. Don't get me wrong, I like the dialogue, but it just often felt like there was a bit too much to wade through before you got back to playing the game proper (IE exploration, combat, character customization, etc.)

    So, my question for Atomboy is: has this been noted by ATOM Team and altered in any way for Trudograd, or are we in for a very similar design approach in this as well?
     
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  16. Yosharian Cipher

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    Is there a list of permanent bonuses you can accrue to your Characteristics?
     
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  17. Darth Canoli Cipher

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    I found it quite fun(ny), it's probably the game i've played that handles it best.
     
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  18. flushfire Augur

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    1 free point from fishing, you need the craftable lure and 11 luck
    2 free points from serums in roaring forest and dead city
    +1 dex tattoo in dead city
    +1 luk from roaring forest statue
     
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  19. jackofshadows Learned

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    Did you play as a male/female or both?
    In addtition to that
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    In order to utilize +1 dex you don't have to play most of the game with 9 dex, it's much more wise just use respec potion before gettin tattoo. Also I don't think 11 luck is mandatory for fishing but chances are ridiculously small on anything lower than 10, so...
     
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  20. Darth Canoli Cipher

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    No, i didn't play as a tranny.

    So, as a male it was fun, kind of Austin Powers in USSR.
    I wouldn't know as a female because i only create female characters when creating a whole party.
     
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  21. Sòren Cipher

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    i enjoyed it, highly. writing is better than in almost any other game i have ever played, i loved it in companions, quests and story. i already wrote things about in the old thread, and i don't feel compelled to repeat me. however, u are entitled to ur own opinion and taste, and i don't want to be part of the group of shitflinging monkeys that roam these forums here, so i redacted my first assessment. i was just sleep deprived yesterday. sry.
     
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  22. Darth Canoli Cipher

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    Aren't you flinging shit at the monkeys yourself?
    What does that make you ?

    :philosoraptor:
     
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  23. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Atomboy whatever you do, do not send a review copy to codex representatives.
     
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  24. jackofshadows Learned

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    I see. Yeah, I get that. Problem is, the game doesn't hold that goofy tone all the time, unfortunately. And in any case, imo they'd better just leave the black screen for sex scenes instead of that.
    Nah man, it's perfectly fine, I don't care much about the ratings but ATOM's writing receive on Codex is what just baffles me greatly. Since I lost my survival save I will do one more run in order to import it later so I'll start on english and will try to dig into it.
     
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  25. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    this is how people ruin games for themselves
    just play it without someone telling you how
     
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