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KickStarter ATOM RPG - Wasteland Soviet style!

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Atomboy, Oct 1, 2016.

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Will you back?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2017.
  1. I will consider it!

    39 vote(s)
    54.9%
  2. No! I would never!..

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  3. kingcomrade

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  1. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Actually when I look at it, it seems like the dev has successfully added in Power Armor into ATOM. In form of a thick piece of iron you carry on your left hand. :lol:
     
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  2. Politician Lurker King

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    ATOM RPG Bible when.
     
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  3. TwinkieGorilla does a good job. Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Divinity: Original Sin Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech
    This got a good chuckle out of me.
     
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  4. Mark Richard Prophet

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    Fini. Doubt I can say anything that hasn't been said a hundred times already. If a game gets a Codex review before your initial playthrough, you know you're truly late to the party. It's great though. I got invested in the internal politics which started out simply enough but often develop another face (the Otryen/Factory questline is like a microcosm of that), and just like in Legends of Eisenwald even the most innocuous rumours tend to bear fruit.

    I kinda dig the boss:

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    It's like a benevolent version of The Master who makes a convincing argument. So there's an asteroid hurtling towards earth and this undeveloped world isn't going to be able to launch Bruce Willis with his space drill in time. ATOM has a wait and see approach, acting as a guide to the wasteland's development rather than taking charge. The boss has a proactive plan to connect everyone in a hive mind and prevent the catastrophe, virtually guaranteeing survival. So triumphing over the boss in any fashion leaves a sword of Damocles hanging in the air. Is individuality precious enough to resign the human race to near-certain extinction? There's no super mutant virility trump card to torpedo the plan. The boss has been thinking about this a lot longer than you.

    One way to defeat the boss with speech? Point out it'll have to do the one thing it hates the most to get the job done - commit violence.


    Several quests not only have multiple solutions as expected, but also multiple levels of success. Doing a really good job gets a bigger reward. I've heard refusing a monetary reward can net extra experience or unique items instead. 'Heard' being the operative word (I gotsta get paid). The consequences for the completion of some quests was the unexpected part, like the travelling merchants stocking a series of 8 erotic space novels after I brokered a deal between the writer and publisher, or being able to blackmail names on the Barbecue list.

    There should be an unlockable distinction for being a tattletale. You can tell on half a dozen people for smoking, drinking, or keeping a secret. In some cases you can give the person the very thing you're going to tell on them for. What an asshole! I love it. :lol:

    Suppose I should find something to complain about. Okay so there's like 4 rope uses in the entire game, and 2 of them are on the same map. Rope interactions are like buses, you spend ages waiting and then 2 come along at once.
     
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  5. Atomboy Atom Team Developer

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    Hey, gamers! I don't usually do that "look at what we've been up to, dear target demographic" marketing stuff, but we love this loading screen art so much, we're plugging it everywhere.

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    Now, to do some random replying where I have something to add!

    Dude... I even went in to check, and yes, it actually does reflect. How weird is that!

    The rarity of glue, however, is kinda strange. Must be the random. It's like another person wrote about the rarity of shields a few posts above. I have like 10 in my current playthrough on level 6, got em from rando bandits. Sometimes the dice just roll in favor of an item being abundant, and sometimes they don't.

    Thanks, man! Every time someone likes Atom, it gives us a huge moral boost. Money is cool and all, but nothing beats reading feedback, especially about the little stuff we hid in there, like the snitching :D You nailed it with the boss analysis!
    Thanks!

    Put them in the weapons thingy!

    With more ease, I'd say!
     
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  6. Bergblatstein Barely Literate

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    Has anyone been able to unlock the "No Name,No Slogan" achievement?
     
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  7. Lord Commissar Alexer Novice

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    Too bad you cant blow up people with pick pocket explosives like in Fallout. Whole turns hostile.
     
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  8. Edija Learned Patron

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    The comment of the dude in the first village that the wildlife will soon form a party made me chuckle.

    Also, are skills passive? Stealth, for example? How does it even work, can I, technically, stand in front of a dude and take cookie out of his hand if I'm skilled enough with stealth? I stole a lot of stuff already and no one seems to care.
     
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  9. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Almost all of the skills work in a passive way.
    Stealth just lowers NPC detection radius making it possible to get away with stealing or walking away from encounters in the wild.

    IMO there's a lot of 'useful' skills but none of them require that much of an investment.
    The best investment is still speechcraft for additional reward and quest resolutions.
    Followed by weapon skill that you prefer.
     
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  10. Lord Commissar Alexer Novice

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    Invest a good amount of points in pick pocket and you wont have any money or ammo problems anymore.
     
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  11. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    The book seller in Krasno has 4 skill books. But they won't work if you have 100 on the respective skill.
    And they're very good buys for early game:
    - Two books worth total +34 Speechcraft
    - +14 Survival
    - +13 First Aid

    Don't forget you can resale the books to recoup the cash.
     
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  12. Lord Commissar Alexer Novice

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    And he has a skill book in his safe too, that is if you managae to get in.´
     
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  13. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    You can treat the jew to some cigarettes for a Barter Hat.

    Party runs more smoothly now with improved UI and party AI.
    Companions automatically adjust their position upon risk of friendly fire now, so that's great.

    Fidel is more flexible now with Pistol + Cast Iron Shield. With perks, he can shoot more often in combat, add in +3 DEX from toadstool and 2x sweet cakes and he's a decent and tanky pistol user. Don't forget you can give him SMG in his off hand for Burst damage as well. Switch as needed.

    Hex should still be a rifleman IMO, because the monster lore HP vision is now enabled if one of your party member takes it. So definitely give him all the rifle perks and Dragunov eventually to take advantage of the critical chance boost. There's also a way to take advantage of the shield by giving him a pistol / any melee weapon in his off hand. When he needs to run, tell him to switch weapons and he'll pull out his cast iron shield on the back for the massive DT boost.
     
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  14. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    Whens the dlc hitting?
     
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  15. Lord Commissar Alexer Novice

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    There is a DLC coming?
     
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  16. Edija Learned Patron

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    Eh... can somebody help, I was a bit reckless and failed to answer the questions Ariadne (Mushroom Cult) gave me twice, now she won't talk to me anymore. As far as I understand she is needed to progress in the main quest? How do I go from here, I don't want to lose multiple hours of gameplay.
     
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  17. Politician Lurker King

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    RK47 The Red Fighter is still a empty location with nothing to do beyond the upgrades. Am I right?
     
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  18. Sòren Cipher

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    there's another one

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    another serum in dead city - solve the cube riddle at the stalker camp, requires high pickpocket (80+) after that(



    btw dead city was so disappointing. such a great atmosphere and "stalker" environment, yet hardly anything to do there.
     
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  19. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Have Fidel join the party and talk to the informant in Krasno's casino.
    The alternate option is very expensive. Good luck.
     
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  20. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Afraid so.
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    There's the couple from Dan's Factory joining you. They don't seem to have any function except for background NPCs.
    Then there's the ammo crafter that can help supply you if you build a work bench.

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    There's also a radio giving random distress call.

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    It's just a trader being attacked by random bandits. I got 1000 ruble from the caravan master upon successful rescue.
    There's also a barbel that can give +1 STR if you successfully lift 40 kilos. You'll need STR 8 to trigger the Trained buff (+1 STR)

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    If you add the kitchen area, the slave you rescue will work there, giving you free food.

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    But the biggest deal of all is probably getting the rest area and recruiting Alexander. You'll need a high personality (7) for it. He starts at level 13, but his skill and perk default is not so good.

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    As you can see they build him as a melee fighter. So you have very little option but to employ the standard cast iron shield and pistol if you want him not to die alone in the front.
    However, he can be fixed by the newly added Oblivion ampoule. In the Krasno sewers, you'll find a trader selling it for 7000 ruble.

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    Alexander can now be 'fixed'

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    He can be turned into a automatic rifle killing machine. Or whatever you wish.
    13 levels worth of skill points are available to redistribute into 199 weapon skill with leftovers.
    I gave him Quick Reactions (free half turn) and Armor of God for perks.
    He also doesn't need INT or PER.
    :lol:
     
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  21. Politician Lurker King

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    I don’t understand what these developers were thinking. Why waste so much effort in a location if there is no real activity in there? The place need proper management activity and quests. Otherwise is pointless. Crossroad Keep in NWN2 was the only stronghold in cRPGs that got it right. Shame.
     
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  22. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    I think the biggest wtf is when you upgrade it , you lose access until the upgrade is finished.

    :lol:
     
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  23. Mark Richard Prophet

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    Red Fighter is touted as
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    a future economic powerhouse, yet there's very little outside of the ending clip to convey that. Gozhin says Red Fighter will be a big deal, the game ends, and then Red Fighter is a big deal.
    Not expecting Sim City here, but helping the town through the earliest development phase would've been nice. Act as the town's representative in a dispute with the farmers, deal with Krasno sending thugs around for a tithe, etc. As it stands the player's impact is limited to their house in the form of superficial upgrades. Otradnoye has so much more going on, like the half dozen zany characters whose visits are randomised, or a questline to decide the town's leader. Not to mention its in a central area of the wastes on the way to other places, whereas Red Fighter is in the middle of nowhere.

    Also maybe we can get some bees for those unused bee huts near the house. Waiting patiently for the long awaited bee update.
     
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  24. Politician Lurker King

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    Mark Richard I think this is the main problem of Atom RPG. The disparity in content between different locations. The more quests they add, the longer the longevity and positive reception. A bigger world with empty locations doesn’t feel big.
     
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  25. Atomboy Atom Team Developer

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    Wadup guys! I came to make some posts!

    Gonna do that in the end of May! The announcement will come soon.

    You can't really fail the main quest, you just made it a little harder to do. The Mushroom cult simply aims you in the right directions to pass the story, but you can always find those locations on your own or just storm their mushroom house and be done with it.


    The Dead City will get a ton more stuff to do in the May DLC. A murder plot, several dungeons, the works. I posted this before, yet I'll say it again. The problem here was we actually needed this whole Dead City map only to host the shroom/AI bunker, it was meant to be tiny. But due to I don't really know what, it became a huge ass map. A huge ass map we never even imagined in our game plan... But now, since it is what it is and it's too late to back down and make it tiny, we're making it full of people. As for red fighter, well, what can I say, it's three times the size of what was planned at first, but we'll add something else with the DLC or after it. It kinda does look pretty barren.

    I really think that after all the crippling bugs are fixed, yall start liking DC. If not for the incestual inbreeds then for the giant mole crickets and serial killer.
     
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