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Bad Company 2 rocks

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by kingcomrade, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. kingcomrade Kingcomrade Edgy

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    I was surprised, I didn't even realize it had a Modern Warfare-esque single player campaign, I thought it was just like other Battlefield games and was gonna kill some bots and drive around in some tanks for a little while.

    The thing that really got me about the game, besides the purty grafix, is the way the guns handled and especially the sound effects. Also they implemented shotguns that aren't terrible. Where MW2's guns all sounded tinny and weak and there was no real recoil, these guns bounce around and sound great. You also will hear echoes of your own gunshots off buildings, and overall the game sounds amazing.

    It's a shame Bad Company 1 wasn't released for PC. I would like to play it.
     
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  2. The sound is the only thing better than MW2.
     
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  3. Mangoose Arcane Patron

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    Have you played multiplayer? Is it better/worse than any of the previous BF games?
     
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  4. Somewhat worse, if only because the infantry combat still feels like a Battlefield game and there's no commander and fewer vehicles. It also seems a bit like the unlocks are less balanced than in 2142 and 2.

    What's significantly worse is the server browser is completely broken and doesn't show server ping. Apparently this is a fairly widespread but not complete issue so maybe KC's lucky. The game's also a bit of a performance hog and has some old Battlefield-clunky control issues such as no strafing when sprinting and no hold-aim down sight (Though I think this last one is being added in the next patch).

    Basically if you want infantry only Battlefield combat then it's ok. But since I always felt the infantry combat was one of the weaker points of Battlefield it's not so hot. Especially with the broken server browser. Strangely enough I have far less issues playing multiplayer with no dedicated servers MW2 than I do with dedicated servers BC2.
     
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  5. Mangoose Arcane Patron

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    Ugh even GameFAQers think it's more like MW than BF.

    "There's no more commanders and squad leaders."

    Wtf is this shit.
     
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  6. And don't even get me started on the map packs. I've heard some people defend BC2 over MW2 "Because they've released three free map packs!". The map packs are different game types for the same maps. If you counted every game type on every map as unique for MW2 you'd probably be pushing 80. Possibly more if you include the maps added by the admittedly way too fucking expensive $15 map packs.
     
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  7. kingcomrade Kingcomrade Edgy

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    What, it's not like the Battlefield games were ever any good anyway.
     
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  8. Mangoose Arcane Patron

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    I like having large numbers of players, because that allows for different squads to perform different strategic tasks, without reducing the number of people per squad to a 2 person fireteam.

    I also like to play them like casual sandbox FPSes sometimes, where I can fuck around but not hurt my team's chances of victory. With smaller number of players in a game I tend to feel bad and then end up trying hard to win which increases my blood pressure and number of expletives, as is occurring in War for Cybertron.
     
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  9. MapMan Arcane

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    *cough* I bought the game *cough*. I have to agree the games sound is amazing. There is a lot of retarded shit in it though:
    1. No sprint-strafe. Takes a long, long while to get used to.
    2. No prone position but its not 100% bad thing. It has its cons and prons. I think the only people using it would be snipers and that would make them even more invisible :P
    3. Choppers are the worst vehicles in game, totally useless, thanks to consoles where no one could aim properly and actually take them down so they had to drastically nerf them and now no one uses them on PC mainly because they have the weakest armor, firepower and are exposed to fire at all times. Choppers used to be(besides airplanes in 1942) my favourite vehicles in all of battlefields and imho they should be extremely powerful in right hands.
    4. Terrible performance. Ok, it looks quite good but it runs like shit. Crysis Wars runs maxed on my PC while I can't play this online on high settings...
    5. Too much bloom/hdr. Everything is so fucking bright i sometimes had my screen covered in all white. They toned it down with lastest patch a lot so now it doesnt feel like everything is covered with polished silver.
    6. Small maps compared to previous battlefields.
    7. Terrible lags/warps. This is primary what makes me rage and stop playing the game.
    8. Terrible main menu/server browser. I wish all games had menus like valve games. Simple, fast yet has everything you need.
    9. Hardcore mode completely fucks the game up. No crosshairs fuck up stationary weapons, you have to shoot and look where the bullets go to aim. In vehicles you have absolutely no information about the vehicles condition except beeping sound when its very bad. Some guns (like medics mg 36) have a built in scope with red dot. In hardcore mode the dot isnt there, making the weapon completely useless unless you want to paint a dot on the screen :P

    Some of the stuff might get patched really soon but god knows how many new bugs will it introduce. Generally, its a good game that requires serious patching. Would be a lot better without popamole bullshit. The game plays much better if you have a couple of friends to play with, preferably with voice communication like ventrilo, teamspeak or mumble.

    I'm still waiting for a battlefield game like the old 1942. Oh god I loved the air warfare.
     
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  10. Destroid Arcane

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    No sprint-strafe? Seriously? This is a major complaint about the game?

    BF1942/2/2142 were all excellent MP FPS.

    Although, whoever invented unlocks for MP focused FPS should kindly kill themselves.
     
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  11. Genma:TheDestroyer Arcane

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    Meh, BC 2's SP is a step down from the original. Linear, with only one way of fulfilling objectives, and most of the humor ripped out. Not to mention nobody even answers why Bad Company suddenly lost all their gold, is back on good terms with the military (when they basically decided to desert near the endgame of BC), and treated like a serious outfit instead of a bunch of losers and expendables (which is what prompted them to desert and run off with the gold in the original).
     
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  12. LazyD Liturgist

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    Who the fuck would waste there time on a BF game that doesn't have mod support.
     
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  13. DemonKing Arcane

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    I quite enjoy BC2 - the sound design is superb and the destructability of cover is a fantastic addition to the series. Also, as it uses dedicated servers there's less lag-death than in MW2.

    Initially I missed the prone option and I wish there was a toggle-option for crouch, but overall it's a fairly decent MW-inspired take on the BF franchise.
     
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  14. Squiggle Novice

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    I must admit that I do enjoy this game. It's one of the better "modern combat" FPSs around. And yeah, the sound is fucking incredible, especially on "war tapes" setting.

    The default settings for latency are kinda shitty, particularly when using shotguns, but all that can be changed in the settings ini to match server pings better.

    My only real beef with this game is that squads are limited to 4 people. This is a problem when myself and 4 or 5 other friends want to play together. There's always an odd person out who has to be in a different squad.

    Oh and single player is dumb. I liked the part when you're on the mountain during the snow storm, though.
     
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  15. Mangoose Arcane Patron

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    And that's why I like the higher player cap of the REAL Battlefield series. Even if you were to up the squad player cap in BC2 to a typical 6 you'd end up with 2 2/3 squads which is stupid. The fact that there aren't commanders or squad leaders is even more streamlined dumbdowned popamole shit. Words can't describe my rage.
     
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  16. I have to say I don't mind the lack of squad leaders much. In BC2 you can spawn on any members of your squad which can be annoying when you're shooting at some random shithead and a friend bursts out of his ass and kills you but it does make snipers ever so slightly useful.










    If they ever left your base.















    Which they never will.
     
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  17. ScottishMartialArts Self-Ejected

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    I'm a bit dumbfounded too. Have none of you folks ever sprinted? The leg movements involved in sprinting are incompatible with stepping sideways. Seriously, go outside and try it. Make sure you're sprinting too, and not just running faster. That means you should be up on your toes, lifting your knees much higher than normal, pumping your legs much harder, increasing your turnover rate, and exaggerating your arm pumping. It should feel like you're barely even touching the ground, almost like you're flying. At any rate, you can't do that while crab walking.
     
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  18. DefJam101 Arcane

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    That sounds like some highly erotic sprinting.
     
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  20. JrK Prophet

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    I really like it and often play with my friends, using teamspeak and all.

    1. That's a complaint? I never had a problem with it.
    2. No prone is good to get people moving around. That is a huge part of what makes this game fun. Enemy squads are constantly on the move and thanks to the destruction engine there are hardly any places that can be held easily. Camping inside buildings means one rocket to the wall next to you and you are dead.
    3. Fuck yeah choppers suck so badly. Not only is movement bad but with the current tracer dart speed it is impossible not to get traced. Funny thing is that the console chopper movement is way better and every PC player is crying to have it on pc too.
    4. It does run quite bad, but mostly on the CPU front. You don't really need a high-end GPU. But you do need a quad-core CPU. I upgraded from Athlon X2 4200 to Phenom II X4 940 and the difference was 40 fps!
    5. Go to settings.ini and set bloom=false. There will still be bloomy stuff (especially in Russian vehicles) but it isn't so bad, and hardly noticeable for me.
    6. It is an infantry focused game, hence the Bad Company. The vehicles are balanced though, no longer the pure ownage machines of BF2. I hated that game for that reason.
    7. I never had this problem but I only play on servers relatively close.
    8. It isn't the best but the last patch majorly improved it. Now it is just adequate.
    9. The red dot problem is only for the MG36, there are no other guns with that sight. That said, hardcore is generally regarded as "soft core" compared to normal style. It is way easier to kill people and snipers always onehitkill regardless of where they hit. Even shitty guns like the VSS become good in hardcore.

    So my own comments:
    - As said, destruction engine is awesome in a game like this. I really really like it, and hope that other games take it over and improve.
    - Gun play is good but could be better (personally I prefer DOD:S style, never played a game with guns like that). Weapons aren't very well balanced but I usually avoid the OP crap. Recoil is annoying visual style where weapons resettle and sometimes it doesn't shoot where your iron sights are looking at (ie cone of fire isn't centered on iron sights). AR's with the exception of the Abakan feel weak compared to SMG's and LMG's.
    - Worst thing about the game as with many MP games is the community. IF you don't have a good squad with friends you can say bye bye to teamplay. Half an attacking team full of camping snipers, medics only rezzing squadmates and running ahead to play rambo, medic squads reviving each other constantly, spawnraping, noobtubing from camping positions...
     
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  21. Destroid Arcane

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    I really liked the strong vehicles in BF2, you really had to work as an infantryman to take out a tank, which is as it should be.

    Except the jets. Fuck those guys.



    Getting in the tank in 2142 is basically a death sentence, it's lame.
     
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  22. MetalCraze Arcane

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    Bad Company 2 has one of the worst SP campaigns I've ever seen in the game. It's just an awful corridor-style railroad with neverending cutscenes and extremely dumb AI.

    Basically the whole campaign goes like this:

    kill 3 enemies - cutscene - kill 3 enemies - cutscene - kill 3 enemies - cutscene - repeat until bored and press uninstall. It even has quest compass in linear corridors - obviously so the player won't get lost on a straight one-way street.

    And the AI - it's a joke. Even on hardest difficulty it isn't any kind of a challenge - there was a crowning moment where on a snowy map the path was blocked by a humvee and 2 soldiers. I just ran at them from the corner and blam - I need to reload. So I simply start reloading 10 meters in front of them, with them throwing at me everything they got. I reloaded and went back behind the corner. Not a single bullet hit me (but you have to agree - that was quite badass). In fact I've played it for 2 hours and only got killed in the last minutes before getting bored - the game is so damn easy - why doesn't it play itself

    After that I've played a little more, hoping that it will get at least somehow better - in the end I understood that it won't and uninstalled forever.
     
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  23. soggie Educated

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    No, you're doing it wrong.

    To strafe left, first turn to the left and start sprinting. At the same time, twist your torso to the right so that you're facing the original direction, shoulder your gun and fire away. That's sprint-strafing.

    Quake 3 Arena and Half Life did it this way, not to mention the old mechwarrior games where your survival is tied directly to your mastery of moving in one direction and shooting at another.
     
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  24. JrK Prophet

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    Cool story,
     
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