Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate III by Larian Studios - Early Access announcement on June 13th

Sound good, i hope is not too much linear.

 

Goddammit men that still hurts.

 

I'm the opposite. I've always appreciated a linear experience more. One of us will just have to be slightly disappointed in that regard.

 

The best RPG structure is having a main quest that can be completed in a variety of ways. Exploration and side questing make more sense then, you never know where the solution will pop up. Being led by the nose from NPC to NPC during the main quest and then having random side quests sprinkled in is awful.

 

You can still have multiple solutions without letting me go to falkreath or dawn star when ever I want to, but I guess there was never a risk of wrath of the righteous ever being like that

 

Ahhh why go back?!?! Just ignore this trash and focus on the true incline that is coming out in the end of the year .

 

Yeah listen to this guy who is definitely ignoring this trash.

 

When larianfags says things like "dos2 is the modern baldur's gate", is hard to ignore then... How someone can believe that a game with cooldowns, item fever, retarded armor system, only numeric ""progression"", cringe writing(...) is the "new baldur's gate"?

 

There's a D:OS retrospective where even Swen says that Baldur's Gate was the last thing they were going for, but when everyone started saying shit like that they decided to go along with it.

 

Indeed, Dos2 was better than Baldur's Gate. Wotc saw this too hence them giving their inferior franchise to Larian so they can make it better.

 

Ahhh i don't mean literally ignore them,just don't get butthurt over a bunch of retards. It is not like the first time we get a upcoming popular game and the codex gets flooded by drooling retarded fanboyz. Same was with pillars,as it was with Bethesda games. It is shame that admins don't kick out the most retarded.

 

At this point your party members are small feudal lords , your adventures determines the outcome of wars and fate of entire countries . It's easy to keep going on,just think bigger scope, send them on far away journey to gather rare artefacts, the followers are still low level fighters that wont follow in dungeons. Even if they do , CR10+ encounters and attrition alone would wipe them out. Write some stronghold related quests too. A good Dm can bring your character to godhood , becmi covered that very well.

 

LOL... dos2 is better than bg in what aspect?
Story - Inferior
Narrative/Mechanic consistency = inferior
Amount of spells = Inferior
Immersion = Inferior
Variety on spell effects and magical items = inferior
Build variety = inferior
(...)

I purchased dos2 far before i joined on Codex. That mistake was thanks to Shadiversity which said good things about the game and i purchased expecting everything that i love from Baldur's Gate, but got everything that i hate on 99% of modern games.

About BG3, i was concerned due "missing obvious not work"(something that works since Gold Box) and "spell slots aren't intuitive when even console games like Dark Souls 1/2 and even Final Fantasy 1 uses it but the gameplay gave me a little hope.

I will purchase Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous, THEN Cyberpunk 2077 THEN if there are no class butchering, BG3.

 

Oh yeah,i am buying the new pathfinder too.

 

That's preposterous - DOS2 is actually good.

And that's despite those things you listed which BG1 didn't have.

 

Good? Everything wrong with dos2 >

• Cooldowns on everything without any explanation. In a RPG, is interesting to have mechanics representing the game's lore and narrative. Contrary to rules like plate armor having a higher armor class vs slashes compared to blunt weapons on Baldur's Gate 2, which are rules that makes sense, cooldowns RARELY has any justification.
• No fast animation / concurrent turns. Seriously. I had Wizardry 8 PTSD flashbacks due the lack of this features. Dark Sun Shattered Lands and Temple of Elemental Evil was fun and engaging on turn based.
• Zimbabwe inflated numbers. Numbers should be measurements of things, They don't need to be ludicrous high by no reason. The numbers on DOS2 becomes soo high that they stop representing anything. Nizidramanii'yt, one of the hardest BG2 enemies has 200 hit points and most stats around lower 20s.
• Only numeric progression. You get all skills relative early on and then, they only trow bigger numbers. Is not like Baldur's Gate 2, where there are over 300 spells to learn and each new magical circle means that your sorcerer/mage can learn tons of news interesting spells. Even Gothic 3 which got rid of tier/circle based magic, requires that you have a lot of ancient knowledge and saturas for example will only teach hailstorm if you side with Adanos on the God's conflict. Even Diablo 2, which is a very mainstream game, a necromancer goes from a single weak skeleton to a army of skeletons, skeleton mages, revived monsters and a iron golem. On DOS2 a necromancer will have just one minion from the beginning til the end of the game.
• Item Fever - Item fever is when the monsters drops items that makes no sense for then to drop. For example, on Fallout New Vega,s if you wanna a anti materiel rifle and explosive .50 BMG rounds, you can kill every Deathclaw and other high level mob in the map and if they don't have the rifle and ammo, they will never drop. Enemies drop exactly what they are wearing, contrary to DOS2.
• Armor mechanic. It just makes all crowd control skills worthless.

A lv 9/10 cleric being low land owner/nobility is not a problem; you can become a Baron at lv 5 on pathfinder kingmaker.

And high tier magic is far more limited on 5e.

 

You go into wargame territory here, though. Ascending to godhood is just lazy and boring. The "core" of an RPG is a band of adventurers traveling together. When all of you are feudal lords with your own strongholds, that's kinda missing the point. And my main observation was more how D&D goes bonkers at lvl 10+.

 

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Wrong. The core of a RPG is role playing. Dungeon crawling is part of RPing but is not everything.

This feat is just to explain that a lv 10 cleric reach the same status as low nobility. And a lot of RPG's include player stronghold.

You get your barony at lv 5 on kingmaker, you can get your stronghold on baldur's gate 2 on chapter 2... And note, that 2e and Pathfinder 1e has way less usage limitation on high tier spells. What makes 5e unplayable at higher levels is that nothing is a threat. You get more hp than 3.5e, but spells, monsters, etc deals way less damage and there are no OHK effects. Fire Storm for eg, deals only 7d10 damage on 5e. Acid rain deals far more damage over time. And at lv 20 can deal 3d4+3d6+14d8 damage which is more than the double of 5e damage.

And PC's and NPC's get way less hit points after lv 10 on 2e. Soi the same spell on 2e is probably 4x deadlier than on 5e.

 

Sure, yet you always fail to mention why it makes it bad beyond "muh immersion". Then when people point out that the vanecian system and memorizing spells too is a little bit of a stretch and poorly justified, you will just draw a dumb comparison like "it has precedents in literature!" as if that suddenly make it ok and it made total sense. Second point is subjective, I found the animations and combat to be fast enough not to bother me. It helps the game doesn't drown you in combat encounters.

You complain about combat being slow and now you want Necromancers to summon an army of undead? And yeah, sure, only one summon, but you fail to mention all the powerful and interesting spells like Shackles of Pain, Death Wish, Last Rites, Raining Blood, among others that can be combined to great effect. You can, for example, combine Shackles of Pain, Living on the Edge, and then use Last Rites, so you kill your opponent through the transferred damage, you survive, and resurrect a party member all in one go. Or the amount of spells that combine with Raining blood, from using the blood for healing, summoning, as a conduct for electricity etc. Without mentioning how spells of different schools can combine with each other.

Bullshit. Running out of armor is a dead sentences exactly because you will be CC to dead, and managing to keep and recovers yours is an important part of the game.


I concede the rest of the points as issues it has, but they do not paint the whole picture. But the truth, is that you don't know jack shit, just parroting whatever other say about the game and have hardly play it because of your own personal biases and obsession with D&D systems and derivatives, and the games of your youth, where if a game doesn't fit your vision of what RPGs have to be, them you automatically hate them.

 

Not in video game adaptations. There are 2 (3) RPGs in existence which focus on roleplaying - AoD and Fallout (and 2).

 

I still haven't finished it, but I would count also Expedition: Vikings at least.

 

Haven't played either of the Expeditions games. Your stats influence the things you can do in that (those) game(s)? I didn't know that.

 

Do you even play RPGs,nigger? Those two are one of the best RPGs in the last decade. Tho i kind off am not surprised that lariantards haven't played good RPGs.