Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate III by Larian Studios - it's turn-based and isometric, folks

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skin grafting pics in a BG3 thread… now I've seen everything

 

Haha made you look

 

It wouldn't be simple in either system. For instance, Counterspell allows you to try and interrupt a creature casting a spell. It automatically cancels spells of the same level or lower than the slot used for Counterspell. For higher levels, the user must pass an ability check with a DC of 10 + the spell's level. The player doesn't know what spell is being cast or its level (for obvious reasons). Additionally, you can Counterspell another Counterspell. If the UI and the animations revealed the spell and/or its level, the spell would become significantly stronger.

And that's just Counterspell. There are other reactions to be considered, such as:

Opportunity Attacks - These are not free in 5E. Characters only have 1 reaction per round, so if they spend it to make an opportunity attack, they can't use another reaction in that same round.

Shield - When hit by an attack or targeted by magic missile, you can cast this spell to give a +5 bonus to your AC/take no damage from magic missiles. This happens after you're hit but before you take any damage, so that's another step of the process where the player would need an opportunity to react.

Uncanny Dodge [5th-level Rogue trait] - "when an attacker that you can see hits you with an attack, you can use your reaction to halve the attack's damage against you".

Absorb Elements - When you take acid/cold/fire/lightning/thunder damage, you can cast this spell to gain resistance (halved damage) to the triggering type until the start of your next turn. The player would need an opportunity to spend their reaction after the spell/attack has landed, but before their HP is reduced.

And many more: the Protection fighting style, Battlemaster's Riposte and Parry, over a dozen Paladin abilities, Lore Bard's Cutting Words, War Wizard's Arcane Deflection, War Caster and Shield Master feats, etc.

Some reactions are exclusive to subclasses/feats and could be ignored in an adaptation without them, but some are very important to their respective classes and couldn't be removed without significantly shifting 5E's balance. Wizards and Sorcerers (plus other multiclassed builds and subclasses) would be significantly nerfed without Counterspell and Shield. Rogues are significantly more fragile without Uncanny Dodge. The game as a whole is balanced around opportunity attacks and their limitations. The list goes on.

In order to adapt the RAW/RAI, the game would have limited options:

1. Make all attack and spellcasting animations slow enough that players have time to react with a context menu and/or pause to choose the reaction. Only viable in a RtwP system without simultaneous resolutions, otherwise characters would have to either delay their action or miss the opportunity entirely. Most players would hate this for obvious reasons, and most combat animations would have to look silly. Not really an option.
2. Automatically pause every time the PCs have a reaction available. Many (if not most) would find this annoying in both TB and RtwP.

In short, Larian is not adapting the reactions as written. And to be fair, I don't think anybody would.

 

Implementing reactions RAW would be near impossible, it would be up there with trying to implement RAW wish.

Does anyone know where 5E got the inspiration for reactions from? I'm not a big pnp player, but it's mostly something I see in tacticool video games.

 

The gist of it could be implemented by simply having the player pick between two counterspell options(targeted, and non-targeted) and simply having counterspell trigger on the next spell cast(either by the target or by any enemy depending on which is picked)

Probably implemented the way most AOO implementations are already: it simply triggers on the first opportunity to do so
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That would be bad for several reasons. Counterspell is a 3rd-level spell. No rational player uses it lightly. Letting it trigger on any spell (which includes cantrips) would be stupid. Also, reactions can be used at any point in the round, so when would that decision be made? And how would the player choose which spell slot to spend with Counterspell? What if another opportunity to use a reaction comes up, would they automatically lose it? That would be a major change to the ruleset.

The game could have settings and/or customizable scripts for these things, but that would only mitigate the problem, and most players wouldn't know where to start.

If the characters automatically make OAs, there would be no point in having reactions as part of the action economy in the first place. And again, the whole game is balanced around the fact that everyone gets a single reaction per round, so making them free would be a major change.

 

nobody is going to implement it with this much autism unless it's a mod

 

Both D:OS and D:OS 2 were overrated as fuck, and I am not hopeful that BG3 will be any better.

I'm sure we'll get heaps of bad writing, bad humor and talking dogs though.

 

BG3 is going to be bigger than Skyrim.

"Project Gustav is set to be RPG who will dwarf them all."
- Swen

 

I think he clarified on that by saying BG3 will be Larian's biggest game.
He was comparing it to other Larian games, not other RPGs.
And even then I think he meant in terms of team size, not gameplay hours.
He said they were aiming for 80-120 gameplay hours while you have DOS2 with 140h for completionists.

 

So it's confirmed - our party will start in Trademeet after some wild mage cast spell on our statues.

 

It was done, dude. They called it "World of Warcraft".

 

Another same-y interview but one more drip of info: https://www.vg247.com/2019/06/19/baldurs-gate-3-will-not-divinity-original-sin-3-another-name/

Also Fargo on inXile's pitch of BG3: https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/0...to-get-the-rights-to-baldurs-gate-3-a-e3-2019

 

Less and less possible to see some first person action RPG of some sort

 

Fargo's plot already sounds better than this world-saving crap we get with Sven.

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I still love you, Sven

 

Yeah it will be like DA:O

 

sounds like the end plot for seige of dragon spear.

tbh, I can't decide whether InXile/Obsidian getting the IP would have been better or worse.

or both are crap. that's an option.

 

tbh, we should hope it's even that level of quality.

Larian has never done a game with a decent plot. ever.

the original divinity was ok, but everything since has been terrible.

I liked D:OS's combat, but the story is abysmal.

So unless they hired Avellone to write the whole thing, I can't see this as being playable. but we'll see.

 

Isn't Avallone a meme at this point? I just roll my eyes whenever I hear someone advertising Avallone's involvement with their game, tbh.

 

even a meme is better than your plot consisting exclusively of dumb jokes.

I'm not saying Avellone is perfect, just that I know he can at least write something decent.

 

https://steamdb.info/app/1086940/history/?changeid=6444968

Heh, Larian manually removed "Turn-Based" tag applied by users on the game's Steam page. That's suspicious.

 

I don't know how will player keep tracking all of the systems if gameplay will be RTWP.
Swen already said it has more systems than D:OS2.
This could lead into chaotic gameplay.

 

Now add rtwp and see what happens.

 

Chris should return to Planescape .. he was born to work on that sort of fantasy setting.
But I know the stars aren't aligned.