Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate III by Larian Studios - it's turn-based and isometric, folks

Yeah I remember, even in 2010 when I joined, Codex had this holy trinity - Fallout, Arcanum and Planescape: Torment, and BioWare games were considered not true RPGs. Only Volourn defended them Things had changed, indeed.

 

Of course I will never be enough for Lilura.

I haven't even played Jagged Alliance 2, I don't stand a chance.

 

You do, you can even kill him. There's even a special ending if you do.

 

Yes.
PoE and Deadfire were both shit, but not as bad as D:OS/2.
PF:KM destroys both.
This post isn't RTwP propaganda, I really like Underrail. It's a tough choice between it and PF:KM tbh.

 

But what “large scale combat” even means? If it is a map filled with enemies to the brim, why is it in the game in the first place? To make the player kill tons and tons of enemies with RTwP? To add pacing? If you prefer fast combat, the solution is RT, not RTwP.

I mean, do you think this is bad in comparison with the other shit people are praising here? I'm not a D:OS supporter. In fact, I sincerely despise the game.

 

And Black Geyser: Couriers of Darkness will shit on all of these clearly inferior games. ALL HAIL THE GEYSER!

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You are simple minded,i do enjoy both pork and chicken,i don't like it when i feel like eating some pork and the garson instead delivers chicken. So i like both systems and prefer it when liked franchises stay true to their origins and don't change genders . Anyone that argues that BG is in TB should just fuck off. There is plenty of top tier TB games already,yet strangely i don't see you cunts talking about them....i might even doubt if you played them. Thus it seems you are just arguing about TB just out of spite and butthurt over the fact that original BG games were rtwp and outsold any TB game out there.

 

Your loss!

 

I guess it's true, what they say about Greco-Romans.

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You niggas gay as fuck.

Oh come on bro, we all know chicken is the shit you eat when you don't have enough money to afford pork.

 

IF you have two necromancers/summoners fighting, that fight can take a eternity with turn based.

TB vs RtWP vs RT can affect the pacing but is not the unique variable. Oblivion is RT and extremely slow at higher levels BUT Dark Sun is extremely fast paced and turn based. Might & Magic VI in turn based mode and Arcanum are very fast paced.

Turn based games can be very fast paced if

• They avoid bullet sponge enemies
• Not having slow animations
• Concurrent turns for multiple summons and enemies
• Not nerfing weapon/spell range to make everyone moves every time

 

S0rcererV1ct0r, so the only reason to prefer other systems over TB is that it can be slow-paced in certain occasions, but this can be fixed given certain specifications. Ergo, TB is a better system, all things considered.

You mentioned concurrent turns for multiple summonses, but you can make other arrangements that are less drastic in AI, number of necromances, number of summons, etc.

 

TB is superior in most cases, i agree. But i will not say that BG/PfKM/NWN1 are trash because they are RtWP.

On M&M VI, i use turn based on hard battles and real time on more easy fights. On arcanum i only use turn based because his real time is broken

 

I only want to play Baldur's Gate 3 if I can sleep-scum my way to victory



"Your party needs to be in peak fighting condition at all times. The next thirty meters of grassland may be pleasantly deserted, or it may be swarming with gnolls. You won't know until there are spears in your face."

https://www.pcgamer.com/i-only-want-to-play-baldurs-gate-3-if-i-can-sleep-scum-my-way-to-victory/

 

Nah,chicken is more expensive than pork. We lost this year around 2 million swines to african flu,we still have enough to not change the price of 4-5 euro per kilogram .

 

The practice fight in the arena are actually a nice income. :]

This is fun.

 

Then what is your excuse for never bothering to understand how it is designed to be played/is actually played?

 

Aside from Fallout and Arcanum, what CRPGs did early Codexers actually esteem? I've occasionally seen old-timers write that the Codex originally possessed a proper disdain for Bioware and all its works, but there doesn't seem to have been much affection for older CRPGs (Wizardry-likes, Dungeon Master-likes, Gold Box, et cetera).

 

BG, the good
Shitload amount of quests, gigantic world full of life, especially the cities, tons of spells, creatures and magical items, different NPCs, D&D.

BG, the bad
Shit writing, awful combat system, terrible encounter design, non-existent resource management, overpowered items.

It’s a good thing that you have things such as magic duels and some creatures that can kill you to oblivion without notice because without them the game would be an absolute chore to play. But even these details are not enough to obfuscate this dreadful combat system. It seems that the whole combat revolves around clicking in things just to see them dying fast. Rinse, repeat. You don’t need anything but melee 99% of the time, and melee, like most things in BG, isn’t fun. It may seem fun, but that’s because you are larping in your head all the previous P&P adventures you had with your buddies. You can over prep and make strategies, but it doesn’t matter most of the time, so the details and options are lost in the unfair cloud of RTwP. Really crude gameplay. The same thing holds for overpowered items that the game throws at you. The bad things cancel most of the good parts with maybe the exception of the gigantic lively world, and it would be dishonest to say that the combat was good because of the richness in details and variety of the game world. I can appreciate one thing and still make a negative judgment upon the game, all things considered.

 

Well, Arcanum has shitty combat, so the consensus was already based on storyfag thin ice.

 

Lurking was working, King.

 

This thread: rtwp is better!/tb is superior!
Me: didn’t visit thread for a weak;
World: united nations declare COVID-19 a global threat;
Thread: rtwp is better!/tb is superior!

 

Well the codex is set in its way,the outside world doesn't really matter that much. You could always visit threads like how fucked america is?,or the corona dedicated thread.

 

It's just, you know, the way to do things in a time when everyone are hacks.
So, hack can only hack.

Best time ever it was....

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So, about TB and RTwP - it doesn't matter which one is used. System won't make game good.
There are a lot of TB game that are shit.
What matter is if the game will be good.
System can attribute to it of course but not more than that.

 

That's because true codexers esteem C&C, and Black Isle/Troika games were the epitome of such, while Bioware never had it.

 

I think you meant "lethal/deadly", instead of "fast". The latter makes you look like you want some sort of fast action game out of a turn-based system.