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Baldur's Gate Beamdog's Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 Enhanced Editions

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Xzar, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. Incantatar Arbiter

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    I'm thinking of several missing voice lines. Minsc, Bassilus, the intro/Nashkel etc. movies. I'm sure there were more. Enemies missing like the second Ogre in the second Iron Throne battle. Tazok and Angelo weren't in the last battle (couldn't see them with Farsight and they didn't appear after arrows of detonation exploded around the throne)
     
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  2. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    :retarded:

    I thought maybe you were referring to some kind of "Unfinished Business" cut content from the original game that was put back in the EE. Is there anything like that?
     
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  3. Incantatar Arbiter

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    Oh, no i didn't mean cut "in" the original game, rather cut "from" the original game.
     
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  4. Incantatar Arbiter

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    And no Kagain quest, no Nashkel ore poison quest or anything like that afaik.
     
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  5. aVENGER Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Developer

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    Just to clarify, we didn't actually get paid by Beamdog/Ovderhaul. Some of the modders volunteered for beta testing while others (like me) merely relinquished some code for them to use. For example, the AI getting better at dealing with doors sounds like it might be based on this.

    Thanks, but at the moment, I'm somewhat busy with RL stuff. However, I might give it a whirl in about 6 months or so. I definitively want to make Rogue Rebalancing and aTweaks compatible with it.
     
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  6. SwiftCrack Arcane

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    None of the cut content is reinstated because they couldn't meddle with it due to contract limitations or something. It's really dumb.
     
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  7. Incantatar Arbiter

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    You were so active on their bug forums, i just assumed you get paid for that. That sucks actually. You guys do their job and they teke the money...
     
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  8. waywardOne Cipher

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    This is one of the main reasons all of this pisses me off. Notice he said he "relinquished" his code. While I won't put words in his mouth, you know they were going to rip-off the modders' work whether the modders agreed to it or not. Like I've said since April, the modders helping out are either hoping for eFame from this or just trying to maintain control how their hard work is exploited.

    I'm interested in where this "modders that helped got paid" started and why it wasn't squashed sooner (and officially).
     
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  9. aVENGER Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Developer

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    To be fair, the Beamdog developers were very nice about this. They didn't integrate any mod content into BGEE without explicitly receiving permission from the modder(s) in question beforehand.

    Also, in the end, very little mod content actually ended up in the game: some bugfixes (including ToBEx engine fixes), a couple of AI script enhancements and a few subtle graphic tweaks (1PP stuff). That's about it, as far as I know.
     
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    That "very little mod content" still constitutes years of dedicated work. I mean, duh, obviously they're not going to add NPC mods and such to the game, but they took everything that made sense to take.
     
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  11. waywardOne Cipher

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    I find it disingenuous if not outright dishonest that they claim 400+ fixes when they just used Fixpack as their checklist, which even gave them the names of the files to fix. (That's not directed at you.)

    They held all the cards. Modders got raped; I'm not sure lube and flowers makes it less dispicable.
     
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  12. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    That is not content in original Baldur's Gate, that's unfinished business.

    I wonder if modders will fix it so you can use the original movies, not the new ones (and put in the cut old ones).

    One other question, do voices play as people walk up to you, or do voices only play after you click on them?

    For example the assassin in the Nashkell Inn will say It may be a bit un-lady like but I'm going to slit your throat I am as she is walking toward you. In BGT/TuTu she only says her line after she has walked up to you.
     
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  13. aVENGER Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Developer

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    Already done.
     
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  14. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Read the thread - that's what I asked about.
     
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  15. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    :oops:
     
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  16. sea inXile Entertainment Developer

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    As they did in the original, when they're walking towards you.
     
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  17. Snerf Learned

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    Out of curiosity, can anyone share exactly what they made the blackguard kit into? I remember seeing some list back in summer/fall on a Reddit AMA, but have no idea how much of that was final.
     
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  18. Incantatar Arbiter

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    Blackguard:
    Immune to lvl drain and fear
    Rebuke undead as paladin
    Absorb Health once/day
    Poison Weapon
    Aura of despair at 3rd effects improve till 20th

    A bit too powerful if you ask me. But it's evil and evil sucks in BG.
     
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  19. Jick Magger Arcane Patron

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    AHHH SERV THE FLAMIN' FIST ain't worth the trouble of being evil.
     
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  20. Xavier0889 Learned

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    The thing that's worse than Flaming Fist guards is that some npcs won't talk to you or join your party if your reputation is low.
     
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    Not to mention that most of the better companions, gameplay and character-wise, are only available with a mid-to-high reputation (neutral's a bit of a misnomer in this game, really). Only character worth an evil Bhaalspawn is Edwin, and even then he'll stick with a good character in BG2 provided their reputation stays below 20 and Keldorn or Minsc don't kill him.
     
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  22. GarfunkeL Racism Expert

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    You don't need to min-max your companions in BG1 unless you use SCS with the more challenging settings. Shar-Teel, Viconia, Edwin, Korgan and Safana makes for a good enough team to finish the game. The only real problem with evil party that has reputation under 3 (or was it 4?) is those neverending Flaming Fist patrols spawning in every zone in BG plus Beregost. Not much fun to quest in there then.
     
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  23. deus101 Never LET ME into a tattoo parlor!

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    I actually tried an Chaotic Evil run for a change and forced myself into a somewhat pointless roleplaying as a self serving evil asshole.
    And its odd that it was the opposite of being a munching.

    I mean you only have 3 Evil NPCs, Korgan, Edwin and Viconia...So you must have 2 neutral NPC.
    Jan, Yoshimo and Haer' ...and Jan quits on you, Yoshi will die regardless so you really don't have any thief characters that will stick with you.

    Anyway, if you get enough negative reputation the damn city guards will keep attacking you, killing them gives you more negative reputation, rince'n'repeat.

    And at -20, prices for EVERYTHING are so ridiculously high and makes bartering at adventure mart damn near impossible.

    And you'll get very little in variation of content, you actually loose opportunity to do certain quests(not many) but you don't gain anything new content vise.

    Evil is downright pointless in Baldur's Gate.
     
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  24. ~RAGING BONER~ Learned

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    ^ an Assassin (who is not pointlessly evil, perhaps just self serving), with Viconia (best cleric in the series), Korgan (best fighter outside of Sarevok, especially if he dual wields axes/hammers), and Edwin (best mage bar none, even one you could make) is simply the best and "purest" party in the entire BG series and a total gas to play.

    ofc i never play unmodded BG/2, I always have SCS(for tougher more intelligent opponents) and tweaks that make sense (such as lower prices for the notoriously evil).
     
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  25. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I don't know what he's talking about. The 3 evil NPCs are the best NPCs in the entire game just like Boner said.
     
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