Bechdel test, or how to test if your game is sexist.

I was surprised that this was a new thing here given all the butthurt over LIBERALS

 

There are countless studies that do in fact claim men and women exhibit different cognitive functions and therefore tend toward different behaviors such as the systemizing/empathizing dichotomy I brought up. The differences between genders exhibit as early as the first years of their lives, and there's nothing that can change that fact.

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Girls develop verbal skill faster than boys as soon as 20 months into their existence, on average. They develop faster than boys and it takes longer for boys to catch up to them.

Boys are more competitive from an early age:

http://ftp.iza.org/dp5015.pdf

Boys are more active than girls and girls prefer socializing:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/c...ly-than-boys-because-they-prefer-to-chat.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/c...ly-than-boys-because-they-prefer-to-chat.html

Girls play less energetically than boys 'because they prefer to chat'

It's not easy to dismiss numerous chemical, genetic, cognitive differences that all account for variations among genders. There are fundamental biological differences and they will play a part in how a person develops. That doesn't mean 'boys like cars, girls like to bake' is hardcoded into their genes, but all of their behavior will be rooted and influenced by gender because it's an essential and inescapable aspect of their biology.

Regardless, a lot of games that draw in women seem to be either story-focused or games that simulate aspects of social life (such as The Sims or other Facebook games). I don't see how arbitrarily changing gender for game protagonists will see a substantial increase in female players due to it. There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to increase demand for games aimed at women, but there's no obligatory intent to be sexist if the market fails to draw in a substantial number of female players any more than it's racist that games don't appeal as much to whatever races or minority groups who are left out -- especially since there's no clear indicator of what the industry is lacking in this regard. If developers are interested in creating games that are friendlier to women they're always free to do so, but I don't see this facet of the games industry as any more 'problematic' than any other (lack of) market demand.

 

Not all trans people blend in as well as others. Some are going to be visibly (and often painfully) trans whether anyone says anything or not. Some you still won't believe are trans even after they've told you as much. Others will fall somewhere in between. If you have a trans actor playing a trans person, they WILL fall in that spectrum, which means it doesn't have to an explicit dialog or sex scene which reveals that the character is trans. For example, this is me:



I'm not painfully visibly trans, but on the other hand if I were a character in a TV show, it wouldn't take that many scenes before you'd begin to notice there was something different about me.

 

attention whoring detected

 

Of course Blade Runner is sexist. Men and women shouldn't be presented as equal. Isn't that kind of the point and warning of the movie?

It's a dystopian, inhuman world, where the women have become servile and inferior again. Only absolute masculinity can thrive, characterized by Bryant's ultimate power over Deckard. But men like Roy, Sebastian and Tyrell are all servile to other men. For the most part, every single man in the movie is also controlled. All passive, weak and emotional people become worthless and enslaved, even the trannies.

 

Last game I played is about bunch of genderless robots that never say a single word to each other.

 

Try to play Skyrim with RK-47 mods which add real life indignities and hardship like rapes, enslavement, menstrual cycle and (un)wanted pregnancies for womynfolk an you'll see how removed from Reality of Life 99% of the Humanity outside white Suburbia; Libruls and Feminists are including the developers of this game who put 50% Female of Bandits and Guards into medieval era world. It will work for really sexist types who run in games with half naked PC girls too. Men had it easier by nature so they created societies which white-knighted womyn; Of course now it all collapses between Pornography, Feminazism and Mudslime barbarians deluge but again why to bother with R word when you can make Videos about how games are sexist cause Womyn are not mistreated there; all funded by Omega Manginas to boot.

 

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BROS LOLLOLLOL I SORTA HAVE TO GET ALL FEMININE ANDSD SHIT I HAVE TO GET THREE GIRLS READY FOR SHCOOL IN THE MORNING I HAVE TO DO THERE HAIR AND SHIT

I CAN TOTALSLY FUCKING FRENCH BRAID NOW SOUNDS GAY BUT MY WIFE JUST THINKS ITS AWEEONE AND I GET LAID MORE

 

Last night I played Civ 5 as Queen Isabella of Spain. I engaged in friendly diplomatic negotiations of resources with Queen Elizabeth of England, before betraying her and exterminating her race. Was this sexist? I'm confused. Calling sexist experts Clockwork Knight, ScottishMartialArts and sea to assess the situation.

 

If anything this test om Movies just higlighted the point that there are loads of more male characters in the majority of movies. Just check around on IMDB and there is a 3-1 or bigger ratio of men-women. With a very few exceptions of movies that is about women.

there are reasons for this of course.
- Men write most stories
- most movies are about conflct
- many feature work enviroments were men are in majority. Police and military in particular.

I disagree about this one. I don't see why this is troubling at all. Unless you think more games should cater to women. I just don't see what games would gain on putting in more women as protagonists. That said, I prefer games were I can choose gender, even if I will always chose a man.

 

If the game has 3D over-the-shoulder view, we get to see more asses wobbling.

 

This thing has been posted on this forum for ages. Yet I always choose playing as a man. You don't need to play many minutes before your character has been filtered away. now if looking at the characters ass is of interest, then I could point you towards much more tintilazing asses of real people. in short I find this line of thinking wierd.

 

It was just a joke. I mostly play as man in 3D over-the-shoulder games when you can select the sex of the character because I want to identify with him, at least in the firts time playing. Unfortunately many of those games are popamole shit like Mass Effect or Skyrim. There are exceptions, such as VtmB, where I played with both male and female characters for variety: male Ventrue then female Malkavian, male Nosferatu, then female Tremere, etc.

 

Wow, hot damn.

Uhm, right. The topic. I get what you mean, how they could be subtly exposed to the viewer. That sounds fun actually, could be a nice thing - spectators arguing if a specific character is a girl or was a trans all along. Now that i think of it, i dont remember any media that depicted a trans that wasnt in an over-the-top, comic way (other than the one you mentioned)... Wonder how that affects the general opinion of society about the trans community? Nevertheless, i'm pretty sure you could play the role of a female and have no one notice it on a TV series. At least in my opinion.

 

When I get the chance, I play some kind of monster that's non-humanoid.

I WANT TO BE A DRAGON

 

Hard to know. Because many have said this seriously. Even claiming it is the manly thing to do.

 

Weird, I didn't get an alert for this.

Anyway, it's not sexist because the queens' genders don't matter in this situation. Unless you betrayed her because she was a queen and you wanted to have a war caused by a catfight, I guess

Well, like you said, you'll always choose a man, probably because you find that more comfortable. What if it was the other way around?

 

Exactly bro, the two most widely written and read novels by women are romance and young adult. And these two genres are the most likely to feature women or girls who's focus is entirely on gaining the devotion and acceptance of male characters. In a free market, this is what the majority of women are choosing to read. And of course there's nothing wrong with that.

But essentially, they want to control what you're supposed to be reading and what your reading should consist of, but they don't ever want to have to read it themselves. They're exempt from it because they're supposedly more intelligent and sophisticated than us mere bros.

Yet if the majority of readers (and writers) are women, but the majority of novels feature male lead characters, shouldn't the onus be on women to accept change, and not force men to change what they're reading? But stop telling me what I should and shouldn't like, when you're not going to follow the same damn rules.

 

I think t is funny that you posted all this as Levine even was blunt when people complained that the Bioshock Infinite cover had a male protagonist on the cover, as he said makes $$$ sense. As their main demographic is men and they did some testing and found that most of the men are likely to buy a game if it has a male protagonist on the box not female since they are hoping to target frat bro's. I don't understand why so many people have difficulty understanding that there has to be a financial incentive for them to make these changes of having more females in games. I guess it is easy for people to complain about the studio when it isn't your money for livelihood at stake.

 

Being used to live from first Parents and then Dady State generosity in Academia and NGOs tends to produce champagne Marxists.

 

That's not entirely true. Otherwise you wouldn't get outcomes like this...