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BG&E for 5 dollars on Steam

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by kingcomrade, Aug 24, 2008.

  1. ushdugery Scholar

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    it's just another one of those omg everyone must play games wank reviewers like to hype like shadow of the colossus not really alll that good but kinda fun no matter what genre you are into.
     
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  2. kingcomrade Kingcomrade Edgy

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    But, I heard you can hotkey multiple buildings at the same time and that there will be rainbows.
    No
     
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  3. J1M Arcane

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    Oh I guess you liked the part where people got magic powers for no reason and fixed everything with magic.

    How do I hide all posts by a user?
     
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  4. Shoelip Arbiter

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    What the crap are you even talking about?
     
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  5. kingcomrade Kingcomrade Edgy

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    Yeah I was wondering what he meant, too.
     
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  6. Shoelip Arbiter

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    Wait, are you talking about that one part where Jade finds out she's an alien power source or something and uses her power to bring her uncle back from the dead? That... wasn't really "people" just one person, and it didn't really fix "everything" just her uncle, sort of.
     
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  7. kingcomrade Kingcomrade Edgy

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    Is that what happened? I never really got the ending to that game, I thought it was an "explained in sequel" thing.
     
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  8. J1M Arcane

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    It was Deus Ex Machina of the worst sort.
     
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  9. J1M Arcane

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    Was this an attempt to trivialize my objection because it fails utterly.
     
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  10. kingcomrade Kingcomrade Edgy

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    What other sorts are there? I think you're nerd raging over something minor.
     
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  11. Admiral Rimjob POOBUM Arcane

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    I wouldn't call it much of a deus ex machina, the only reason they killed the pig off in the first place was to reveal Jade's MAGIC ALIEN POWERS by having her bring him back.
     
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  12. Jeff Graw StarChart Interactive Developer

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    Damn you jimbob! Heard of spoiler tags?
     
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  13. J1M Arcane

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    They could have just not killed the pig then. It seemed pretty clear to me that they wanted an emotional moment, but someone pussed out and decided to reverse it 5 minutes later.

    If you don't think that is deus ex machina, you really need to go look up what it means.
     
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  14. Gragt Arcane Patron

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    It's not really a deux ex machina: the plot isn't stuck and the situation isn't solved by an external element. Also Jade's nature isn't suddenly revealed out of the blue because you had an hint of it at the start of the game even it isn't addressed until the end.

    The DXM, outside of its Greek origins where it was litteraly a god or some other powerful figure that solved the stuck plot at the end, is an artificial and/or improbable device that serves to solve the difficulties of a plot, clearly not the situation at the end of BG&E. Besides it is show as having consequences at the very end of the credits.
     
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  15. Admiral Rimjob POOBUM Arcane

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    Woops, sorry. It's not really a big plot point, though, don't worry too much - it happens out of nowhere and then gets resolved in the space of about five minutes, and everything's back to normal as if it never happened at all.

    I do know what a deus ex machina is. Gragt saved me the trouble of explaining.

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    However, I did slightly suspect the same thing about it being an emotional moment they wanted that they then pussied out of - but since the death and the resurrection happened within about five minutes of each other, I find it more likely that they just wanted a situation that was suitably emotional/dramatic to reveal Jade's powers in. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was pretty stupid anyway, but you blew it way out of proportion in your original post.
     
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  16. Gragt Arcane Patron

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    Yeah it still wasn't very clever, I grew attached to the characters and I remember how I felt when what happened happened... and five minutes later it is solved, that felt cheap. Still the very end of the game shows that it could bring bad consequences for later.
     
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  17. DefJam101 Arcane

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    J1M is easily the worst new poster on the 'Dex. :?
     
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  18. sportforredneck Liturgist

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    moar liek best, amirite?
     
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  19. Shoelip Arbiter

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    Hm, my theater teacher told me that a Deus Ex Machina is literally a machine carrying a god. It's a crane that lowers the actor playing a god onto the stage.
     
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  20. J1M Arcane

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    Yeah, meanings change over time.
     
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  21. J1M Arcane

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    Aww, butthurt best-friends.
     
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  22. Gragt Arcane Patron

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    That's the first sense of it, the "god out of the machine": I mentioned the Greeks making a god appear to solve the complety blocked situation, this god was a human-sized doll or a real actor that was lowered on the scene with a crane, reinforcing the feeling that the plot was indeed solved by an external element.
     
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  23. Lumpy Arcane

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    So you want to Ignore the only black poster on the Codex?
    Are you racist or something?
    BTW the Ignore feature was removed anyway, you racist fuck.
     
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  24. DefJam101 Arcane

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    Heldon is black.

    Hell, he raps, he's blacker than me.
     
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  25. J1M Arcane

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    Only after reading his posts.
     
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