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Lesifoere

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Aren't the system reqs for DA fairly reasonable? Your gaming PC has to be pretty shit/outdated.
 

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DarkUnderlord said:
It was more the tripe about having had the 'honor' at being invited, coupled with the over-the-top gushing and complete lack of any factual information (played for 12 hours, alledgedly saw 'in-depth demos of the game features, as well as some of the creative processes' yet there's no detail on what they are, then talks about taking 'roleplaying to the highest order', 'many decisions have a definite complexity' but fails to give any examples - Particularly when examples given in other previews indicate lack of depth and typical forced BioWare outcomes).

If he'd paid for himself, maybe half the preview wouldn't be about how honoured he felt and he might've focussed more on actually previewing the game?
I've mentioned it in the news on SP that we've gone for a spoiler-free preview. GB's preview is great, but it also spoils you details-wise more than anything else posted to date. If you want to know every detail of the game 2 months before you'll actually be able to play it, awesome. But a lot of people don't want (m)any spoilers before they get to open the box. You can't please everyone.
 

ricolikesrice

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what ? i ve just reread the GB preview and there isnt any major spoilers. some NPC and location names are listed but other than its pretty much explaining mechanics.

or is that considered spoilers today ?

i ve found the GB preview very informative and its pretty much what i expect from a serious preview. it helped me to get more interested in the game, maybe especially because it actually talked gameplay and content instead of being baseless bioware cocksucking like that other "preview" linked in the OP.
 

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What about Borderlands (I think) preview where 90% of text was dedicated to how tasty the food was and the rest was about the game in question? Gaming "journalists" aren't getting bribed, huh uh.
 

bhlaab

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Taluntain said:
I've mentioned it in the news on SP that we've gone for a spoiler-free preview. GB's preview is great, but it also spoils you details-wise more than anything else posted to date. If you want to know every detail of the game 2 months before you'll actually be able to play it, awesome. But a lot of people don't want (m)any spoilers before they get to open the box. You can't please everyone.

Sounds more like an information-free preview
 

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You, sir, are no Dark Fantasy.
 

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I played DAO for a few hours and I've just posted a preview of it in Polish at Polygamia.pl. I have to say that the GameBanshee preview is pretty much spot-on. It's pretty much Baldur's Gate game with some gameplay simplifications and a darker (IMHO better) setting.
 

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Lesifoere said:
Aren't the system reqs for DA fairly reasonable? Your gaming PC has to be pretty shit/outdated.

Yes, they are - for a computer bought in 2006 or 2008, maybe. But my computer is more than six years old....bought it in August 2003. And yes, it has been updated a few times. But it is a singlecore pc, not a dual core. It has has 512 MB graphics card, though. I really need to spend so much money on games and start saving for a new computer...
 

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So, DAO's has a mature storyline, dark setting, C&C, infinitely better dialogue than Bethesda could ever manage (and animation and art design), real party based phase time fighting (almost turnbased), and ingame romance options.

Basically the last major games house designing an RPG for the pc - I can see why the Codex hates it. :decline

PS. I'm a Bethesda fan tho I recognise Oblivion was shit, and Fallout3 was slighly less shit, I just prefer an open world to the corridors of NWN type games.

Currently looking forward to PBs Risen, tho I will demo DAO.

:cool:
 
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franc kaos said:
So, DAO's has a mature storyline, dark setting, C&C, infinitely better dialogue than Bethesda could ever manage (and animation and art design), real party based phase time fighting (almost turnbased), and ingame romance options.

Basically the last major games house designing an RPG for the pc - I can see why the Codex hates it. :decline

BUT IT DOESENT HAVE TURN BASED COMBAT WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR ALL TRUE RPGS
 

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MetalCraze said:
What about Borderlands (I think) preview where 90% of text was dedicated to how tasty the food was and the rest was about the game in question? Gaming "journalists" aren't getting bribed, huh uh.
I know that many Codexers are from third-world countries, so this might be hard to understand, but a free hotel room and a free meal in Edmonton isn't really a bribe for many of us. If I was a gaming journalist, I'd much rather get a disk in the mail than haul my ass to Alberta just so I could write a preview. That might seem like a sweet reward to a homeless guy, but it's more of a hassle for many of us.
 

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Zeus said:
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You, sir, are no Dark Fantasy.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?! Don't you see the dark upper corners all dark and gritty?! That's totally dark fantasy!!!111 1

Dionysus said:
MetalCraze said:
What about Borderlands (I think) preview where 90% of text was dedicated to how tasty the food was and the rest was about the game in question? Gaming "journalists" aren't getting bribed, huh uh.
I know that many Codexers are from third-world countries, so this might be hard to understand, but a free hotel room and a free meal in Edmonton isn't really a bribe for many of us. If I was a gaming journalist, I'd much rather get a disk in the mail than haul my ass to Alberta just so I could write a preview. That might seem like a sweet reward to a homeless guy, but it's more of a hassle for many of us.
Rich pusses... :evil:
 

Lurkar

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franc kaos said:
So, DAO's has a mature storyline, dark setting, C&C, infinitely better dialogue than Bethesda could ever manage (and animation and art design), real party based phase time fighting (almost turnbased), and ingame romance options.

Basically the last major games house designing an RPG for the pc - I can see why the Codex hates it. :decline

PS. I'm a Bethesda fan tho I recognise Oblivion was shit, and Fallout3 was slighly less shit, I just prefer an open world to the corridors of NWN type games.

Currently looking forward to PBs Risen, tho I will demo DAO.

:cool:

DAO has yet to show C&C, a mature storyline, or a dark setting, and the in game romance options are as juvenile and pathetic as ever.

Sorry, I know this might come as a HUGE SHOCK, but most "mature" features in video games are as immature as it gets. Most people lost their obsession for blood and tittays in high school.
 

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Lurkar said:
DAO has yet to show a mature storyline
Not sure what you are talking about, they already announced there'll be plenty romances?
 

Jasede

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Visible nipples, romances that end in sex, violence and swearing. Those are the four pillars of maturity, just like how giving alms, acknowledging Allah as the only god, pilgrimage, fasting and prayer are the five pillars of Islam.
 

jazzotron

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Lurkar said:
Most people lost their obsession for blood and tittays in high school.

Red-blooded males never lose their "obsession" for blood and tits. :twisted:
 

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Dionysus said:
I know that many Codexers are from third-world countries, so this might be hard to understand, but a free hotel room and a free meal in Edmonton isn't really a bribe for many of us. If I was a gaming journalist, I'd much rather get a disk in the mail than haul my ass to Alberta just so I could write a preview. That might seem like a sweet reward to a homeless guy, but it's more of a hassle for many of us.

And that's why mediawhores write "oh my god this food was so tasty and the girls were so nice. The game is great btw" and after they got lots of developer presents they give the game glowing 10/10s even though the game is a mediocre piece of shit and half of the review criticizes it? Or even better - lies about something that isn't there. Like Asslock's Oblibian poetry.
Try better excuses. Like f.e. people writing about games for the prestigious magazines tried their first game ever only last month and it was Minesweeper.

Jasede said:
Visible nipples, romances that end in sex, violence and swearing. Those are the four pillars of maturity, just like how giving alms, acknowledging Allah as the only god, pilgrimage, fasting and prayer are the five pillars of Islam.

Except DA is not mature enough - "hey we have sex but we can't have nipples and people should be dressed while having it - think about the kids that will be playing it!"
Some double standards there.
 

Volourn

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"DAO has yet to show a mature storyline"

Bullshit. Read about the origins.

Then again, the Codex (or the internet in general) doesn't know what 'mature' is. Mature to them are titty cards in TW. LMAO
 

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Stereotypical Villain said:
We're getting lessons in maturity from a guy who writes "lmao" and "r00fles"... Fancy that.

R00fles!
I am not at all facetious in saying that most of the world would agree that one litmus tests of maturity might be: Do you immerse yourself in fantasy video games where you pretend to use "magic" to fight "dragons"? So it's really a catch-22.
 
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Yeesh said:
I am not at all facetious in saying that most of the world would agree that one litmus tests of maturity might be: Do you immerse yourself in fantasy video games where you pretend to use "magic" to fight "dragons"? So it's really a catch-22.

What do you mean by immersion? Plenty of people here translate "immersion" to "larping"
 

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What do you mean by immersion? Plenty of people here translate "immersion" to "larping"

I didn't say "immersion". I accept that "immersion" is a buzzword and a term of art as it applies to video games. But for fuck's sake, is there really any confusion about what it means to immerse one's self in any activity? A good book, cooking dinner, fucking planting a garden; these are things into which one might immerse one's self. This concept existed long before CRPGs, but it certainly applies particularly well to our dear hobby.

If you're playing video games and not looking away from the monitor for hours at a time, there is no question that you've immersed yourself in that activity.

I mean, duh.
 

Volourn

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Duh.
 

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