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Game News bitComposer issue official statement on Chaos Chronicles

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Aug 1, 2013.

  1. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Tags: bitComposer; Chaos Chronicles; Coreplay

    After it was revealed last month that development on tactical turn-based RPG Chaos Chronicles had been halted, the proprietor of the Games Inquirer blog started a petition asking the publisher, bitComposer, to allow the game to be completed. Today, the petition, which got over 600 signatures, received an official response from bitComposer. I quote:

    Statement on the situation of Chaos Chronicles

    Due to wide ranging speculation concerning Chaos Chronicles, we have decided to issue a statement. For legal reasons, we cannot go into all the details. However, we would like to describe the current situation as best we can within the given limits:​

    Chaos Chronicles is a promising project for Coreplay as well as for bitComposer. The current dispute between the two companies has NOTHING to do with the actual developer team or with the project itself. Seeing as the development of the game is already at such an advanced stage, bitComposer would still like to complete and market Chaos Chronicles with the developer team from Coreplay. In September 2012, one of the founders and managing partners of Coreplay left the company—and this was a real surprise for us. Shortly thereafter, the former managing partner’s shares were taken over by a lawyer and an investor.​

    From this point on, there have been differing opinions concerning the previously agreed contracts and the future form of cooperation.​

    We are of course aware that the ire of fans will focus on the ‘evil’ publisher. Please be aware that we are not ignoring the comments and the online petition, but a solution always requires two parties, and in this case, three, as the game has been partly financed with public funds through the FilmFernsehFonds Bavaria. On July 24, we once again tried to find a solution agreeable to all parties, though Coreplay and their managing partners did not want to attend these mediation talks.​

    Despite the clear legal situation, efforts by impartial institutions, and considerable accommodation on the part of bitComposer, Coreplay is not ready to participate in a balanced solution, and thereby knowingly bring about the end of Chaos Chronicles.​

    bitComposer Games​
    bitComposer Entertainment​
    info@bitcomposer.com​

    "A lawyer and an investor", huh? That doesn't sound good.

    Update: Chaos Chronicles lead Peter Ohlmann has issued a statement of his own on our forums:

    "The first casualty of War is Truth"

    During a 5 hours meeting, we've discussed and negotiated every detail of a final agreement between bitComposer and Coreplay for realizing a completion of Chaos Chronicles.

    We wrote all those terms and conditions into a contract and at the end of this meeting day, both parties agreed to those terms.

    Unfortunately (and surprisingly) bitComposer rejected to sign this agreement on this day because they still wanted to clarify an open issue regarding the tax. But before leaving our office, they've promised us to check this issue as soon as possible to make a final signment possible in the next days.

    This was two month ago and we haven't heard back from them since then.

    In their recent statement to the petition, they mentioned a meeting last week (24th July). But they did not mention the fact that they already announced not to sign anything in that meeting. That's why we haven't attend it, because we don't have time for this 'play for time' bullshit anymore.

    And for the records: the main reason for this dispute was the controversy about an early release of Chaos Chronicles in March 2013. A release at this time would have led to horrible consequences for the game regarding its quality, content and stability.

    Since bitComposer rejected to invest more money into our game, we had to get the money elsewhere. Throwing an unfinished and crappy game on the market was no option for us and that's why we had no other choice than borrowing money from third parties to continue the development and completion of our game. We wanted to release this particular game as it was intended, because otherwise we wouldn't get a second chance to create such a game again.

    At some point, you have to fight for your creative work, no matter what financial and legal consequences it could cause. Otherwise you would give up your work and all dreams you had.

    And before we release a game like 'Citadels' (which was released way before its completion), we prefer not release a game at all.​

    Shit just got real.

    Update 2: Peter has more-or-less confirmed that the game is dead. Sad, sad business. Hopefully Coreplay's next project will be as appealing as Chaos Chronicles was.
     
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  2. Haba Harbinger of Decline Patron

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  3. 80Maxwell08 Arcane

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    Well that's even more depressing than bitComposer just shutting it down. Hope it gets resolved somehow.
     
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  4. Volrath Arcane Patron

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    We're fucked.
     
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  5. Excidium P. banal

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    Waiting for coreplay's statement now. :avatard:
     
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  6. Stabwound Arcane

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    Well, ain't that a motherfucker. If things were going downhill as early as last September, they sure didn't let anyone know. And "thereby knowingly bring about the end of Chaos Chronicles" = dead. Big ups to Coreplay for not even trying to come to a resolution by not showing up to the talks. Morons.

    RIP, game that looked amazing but was too good to be true and was never meant to be. :salute:
     
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    Guess the talks were Deleted by HobGoblin.
     
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    Things are looking cooked. You could say it's cooked to the core... play.

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    Chaos Chronicles what a fitting name.
     
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  16. Jashiin Arcane

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    What a load of shit. The only good thing about this is that we know the game will never be finished. No need for hope.
     
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  17. [Perception] So FilmFernsehFonds Bavaria nuked this project?
     
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  18. Murk Arcane

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    "First taste of that horrible illusion: hope" -- INDEED

    Well shit. So... someone on the development team left... and that person's shares were taken by an unrelated 3rd party? And now the developer won't renegotiate? Is that what's implied or am I misunderstanding something?

    Not much good coming out of Krautland lately...
     
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    The interesting thing is that they are reacting to the petition.
     
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  20. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    Seems like one of the partners left due to some heavy disagreements, since the game seemed almost ready and since he sold/handed over his shares to some investor. Said investor got himself a lawyer and made unreasonable demands (unreasonable because they aren't covered by the agreement). Maybe they felt that they had bC by the balls. What's most troubling is the claim that Coreplay didn't even show up for mediation.

    Now, 10 days ago HB said :

    "I don't want to keep you guys from writing those excellent fiction, but the current unsettled situation with Chaos Chronicles is solely based on a conflict between us and bitcomposer. At the current state the completion and release of the game is uncertain since our last attempt to find some agreement failed due the disappointment that we haven't heard back from bitcomposer after holding a long (and constructive) meeting.

    Obviously, the game won't be released in this summer because bitcomposer stopped the development earlier this year through an legal injunction(which has been recalled later). The next few weeks will finally decide if the game will see the day of light or not."

    Which does not bode well.
     
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  21. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Updated OP.
     
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    I gotta say, newsjew, you got fast hands. There was some 5 or 6 minutes it took from he posted till you brofist-harvested it.
     
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  24. in b4

    bitComposer: You!!
    Coreplay: No, You!!
    bitComposer: No, its you!!
    Coreplay: No, You!!
     
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