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Review Bizarre KOTOR 2 review at 2404

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by Vault Dweller, Mar 19, 2005.

  1. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    Tags: Obsidian Entertainment; Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords

    I haven't seen anything like that before. I've read "KOTOR is the best TB game evar" reviews, I've read "KOTOR is the deepest and the most non-linear role-playing experince evar" reviews, and I've even read "Whoa! KOTOR has the most amazing plot of the century" reviews, but this is something new. This new specimen of a KOTOR (well, technically it's KOTOR 2, but they all look the same to me) review comes from <a href=http://www.2404.org>2404</a> and could be found <a href=http://www.2404.org/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=96>here</a>.
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    <blockquote>THE GOOD
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    * Streamlined interface
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    * Faithful reproduction of the Star Wars universe
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    * Ability to shape your character through interactions with others
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    * Great cut-scenes
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    THE BAD
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    * Cheesy dialogue
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    * Underwhelming combat system in the early game
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    * Dated graphics.
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    Some of the characters dialogue is downright laughable, ranking among the worst in recent memory. While this isn’t a complete buzzkill, it does lessen the overall effect of the great, cut-scene driven plot.</blockquote>'nuff said.
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    Spotted at: <A HREF="http://www.bluesnews.com">Blue's News</A>
     
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  2. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    And? This is one of the better ones.
     
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  3. Otaku_Hanzo Erudite

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    I think he just got impatient with all the dialogue and wanted to get back to some hot RT/TB lightsaber action. Cheesy dialogue..... hah! :D
     
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  4. Sarkile Augur

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    I didn't notice any more cheese in KoTOR 1's dialogue than in 2.
     
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  5. Spazmo Erudite

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    To be fair, a lot of the KOTOR2 dialog is pretty pretentious and meaningless, especially when you take a step back and go "hang on--this is fucking Star Wars."
     
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  6. Sol Invictus Erudite

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    Star Wars was always pretentious. It's just one of shows that takes itself too seriously in spite of content like Jar Jar and the Ewoks.
     
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  7. Greatatlantic Erudite

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    I think I see the issue here. KotOR games have really cheesy dialogue. Some of it might be mildly ammusing, a lot of its just annoying. However, since its "STAR WARS" its OK to have cheesy dialogue. Thats right, the Star Wars lisence excuses more mediocrity then grade inflation.

    It even makes flawed but worth buying games into must have mega hits. I don't know why, it just seems to be true.
     
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  8. theverybigslayer Liturgist

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    Underwhelming combat system in the whole game
     
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  9. Neverwhere Novice

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    "Endure. Through enduring grow strong."

    Hey, that's cheesy. Which game is that one from again?
     
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  10. Sol Invictus Erudite

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    Planescape: Torment.
     
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  11. Neverwhere Novice

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    Errr... I did not intend to get an answer on that one. Could someone now please start flaming me for insulting one of the holy games?
     
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  12. Sol Invictus Erudite

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    Why would anyone flame you for that? We're not all teenagers.
     
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  13. Greatatlantic Erudite

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    Wasn't that one of Zerthimon's sayings? I suddenly get the urge to play that game again. If for no other reason then hear people say "Pike Off".
     
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  14. Diogo Ribeiro Erudite

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    Yes, it was one of the teachings of the Circle of Zerthimon. It's the lesson in the Third Circle, to be exact.
     
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  15. Killzig Cipher Patron

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    Agree with most of those points. Game was average in a market that's on the skids right now.
     
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  16. bryce777 Erudite

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    What flaws the game had were hardly in its dialogue.
     
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  17. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    "What flaws the game had were hardly in its dialogue."

    If youa re trying to say that PST's dialogue was flawless you better go play it again. It's dialogue - while great - is most certainly not flawless, Mr. Bucko.
     
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  18. Naked_Lunch Erudite

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    Please don't call anyone "Mr. Bucko" ever again.
     
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  19. StraitLacedDeviant Erudite

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    Anyone that claims anyhitng is flawless is obviously dancing in the realm of hyperbole. And you are very much a bucko me lad.....
     
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  20. Naked_Lunch Erudite

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    There is only one flawless thing in the universe, and it's Fez's ass.
     
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  21. Fez Erudite

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    Damn right.
     
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  22. bryce777 Erudite

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    Ok, I think there are a couple spelling errors....
     
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  23. bryce777 Erudite

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    Sadly, I do agree with vol about the actual review being sensible, though...as much as I can without actually playing the game. Makes sense to me.
     
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  24. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    "Ok, I think there are a couple spelling errors...."

    LOL You win just for that cumback! Now wipe the drool!
     
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  25. Neverwhere Novice

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    Certainly, PS:T's dialogue was far superior to the BIO-"pick up your henchman/-woman" routine. In fact, it was the best I have seen in CRPGs so far. That isn't to say, however, that is was not "pretentious and meaningless". Hey, this is role-playing, not philosophy class!

    With these caveats in mind, I thought that most of the dialogue in KOTOR2 was quite alright. Sure, the Star Wars universe is particularly cheesy when it comes to the ethics behind it - but there was no way Mr. Avellone was going to change that. Or will you go to see Episode III expecting a film noir?
     
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