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Game News Brian Fargo announces Bard's Tale IV at PAX South

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by Infinitron, Jan 24, 2015.

  1. Zorba the Hutt Arcane Weasel

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    So Hearthstone references and jokes about graph paper to put off fans of the originals. But an ancient IP which is unlikely to attract hordes of casuals.

    Good luck to him but can't say I'm too excited.
     
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  2. muds_animal_friend Arcane Patron

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    I knew I'd get more than one post out of this shoop if I just waited long enough ...

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    Needs an additional 2017 panel where Ned Beatty plays the Bard.
     
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  3. Athelas Arcane

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    Most people are reluctant to 'get something out of their system' when name-dropping it can get them a few mill. :M

    Though what makes you think LOG 2 didn't sell well?


    Phase-based, simultaneous turn-based. It adds another layer of tactics - anticipating what the enemy will do during the execution of your turn.
     
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    It's not an improvement. It's just a different system with different strengths and weaknesses:

    http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=21

     
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  6. Greatness Cipher

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    Letting people choose between paying or grinding? I guess that might count as new for cRPG.
     
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  7. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Well, SteamDB statistics (see LESS T_T's thread), and my own observation of how quickly it fell off Top Sellers on Steam. :M

    It is more expensive than the first game, though, so maybe it'll do better when some deep sales come.
     
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  8. Athelas Arcane

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    You could also have a system where turns are still separate, but everything is executed continuously.
     
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    Well, most of phasebased systems I have played the attacks were still resolved in order decided by some kind of initiative value. The Fargo quote seems to suggest everything would go totally simultaneously. Otherwise he would just be doing Wizardry.
     
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  10. AMG Arbiter

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    Sort of that going back-and-forth process, and you see the complexity and detail and strategy and nuance that can happen. It's really an amazing system.
     
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  11. Athelas Arcane

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    It robs Blizzard fans of their income through in-app purchases. This is a good thing.
     
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  12. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    The original Bard's Talessssssssss were phase-based fpp why are you guise talking as if he's doing something different??????????
     
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  13. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Wow... man that was deep, his dope was 100% pure.
     
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  14. hiver Guest

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    I know VD... i was just goading him into a hole full of spikes and slicing blades... ffs...


    Its not us who are talking about it as if something different - and an "improvement" over TB. dumbass.
     
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  15. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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  16. Crooked Bee (no longer) a wide-wandering bee Patron

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    In theory, yes, it's the one InXile project I can see myself being the most excited about -- as long as it's first person, party-based, and not too streamlined.

    In practice? We'll see. Not much detail to go on yet.

    It sounded more like he was talking about some kind of simultaneous team vs team action resolution to me, not your regular phase based, but maybe that's just the way I read it. Otherwise he could/should've just said he's doing it exactly like Wizardry/BT.
     
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  17. Athelas Arcane

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    But then he couldn't claim to be innovative. Of course, it could be something else than phase-based.
     
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  18. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Hah, like anybody at PAX would have understood what that meant.
     
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  19. Crooked Bee (no longer) a wide-wandering bee Patron

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    He's speaking of innovation (or "deviation") compared to the original Bard's Tale:

    So you either believe him on that or don't. For now, I choose to take his "teams attack all at once" as meaning he's doing some kind of spin on phase-based combat and not just repeating the original's (in which case the above interview wouldn't make any sense).
     
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    My bet is something like Final Fantasy XIII: you prepare various formations & behaviors for your party and just macro-manage between those.

    Yes, a FFXIII-inspired Bard's Tale. I'll let that idea sink in for a moment.
     
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  21. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    True, but that part about deviation isn't a direct quotation. You know how reliable these guys can be when they do that.

    My own feel is that he's describing a "deviation" from traditional turn-based combat as seen in Wasteland 2, which the game journalists incorrectly assume is also how the old Bard's Tale worked. Hence, a "deviation".
     
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  22. Shaewaroz Arcane

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    I'd really love it if they'd actually bring back Bard's Tale's old encounter system and not try to make it real time like Grimrock.
     
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  23. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    All of you phag-mo's complaining about a revival of Bard's Tale by the man himself need your Kodex Kool Kid Klub Kard revoked.
     
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  24. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Wasteland 2 is all the excuse anyone needs.
     
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