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Incline Chris Avellone Appreciation Station

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Crooked Bee, Jul 27, 2015.

  1. Crooked Bee wide-wandering bee Patron

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    An MCA fan forum that doesn't have a dedicated MCA thread? Talk about playing with madness.

    Anyway, just in the last day, there have been three new MCA interviews and this thread is just so I can keep track of these, as well as of all Avellone-related news now that he has apparently gone rogue indie.

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    http://redpagespodcast.com/episodes/

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    http://shaneplays.com/podcast-episode-9-siege-of-avellone/

    Summary by Infinitron here: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/chris-avellone-interview-on-shane-plays.101672/

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    Matt Chat 301: MCA on Siege of Dragonspear

    Summary by Infinitron: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...-on-baldurs-gate-siege-of-dragonspear.101692/

     
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  2. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Hey, why didn't anybody tell me about that first one.
     
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  3. Crooked Bee wide-wandering bee Patron

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    I just saw it on Twitter myself.
     
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    You forgot the first part of the Matt Chat talk with him.
     
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  5. Crooked Bee wide-wandering bee Patron

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    Didn't want to overload OP with videos. It's linked in the description for the second part.
     
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    We need 7 reviews about MCA to decide if MCA is worthy of the Codex approval.
     
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  8. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    The podcast seems to be quite good.
     
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    Was an answer ever given on why he departed Obsidian?
     
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    No since everyone seems to assume he left for a horrible reason and now both parts hate each other so it's too delicate to ask.
     
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    Fuck it. If Avellone gushes so hard about Dragonspear, im gonna buy the shit outta this game... Also he mentioned at 14.15 that if there is a Baldurs Gate 3, he definitely wants to be involved. Now a Baldurs Gate 3 with Avellone as lead-writer, that would be something!
     
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    I remeber him posting how he hates his coworkers who don't wash their hands after the toilets. Maybe that's the deal with Sawyer.
     
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    Well, that's just disgusting. When you shake their hands, you're indirectly shaking their penises.
     
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    Ergo it's rape? Ha.
     
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    Maybe he wants to be an human stretch goal even for Obsidian projects.
     
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    Wow, he actually talks about Durance and GM in the first podcast around 1:28:00 and what exactly was cut (it was the mental dungeon). It seems that Durance and GM are connected somehow (!) and the player can find out how if he/she is clever and careful enough (Chris didn't elaborate). And he also mentions who made the final implementation of these two characters and cut the mental dungeon (no, it wasn't Josh).
     
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    Theres a connection between Durance and GM already stablished in the game according to what ive heard.

    Irenaeus II i think you mentioned something of the sort. I never made it so far, my brian couldnt take it, it was so boring i wanted to cut myself.
     
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    I've missed it then, perhaps because I've never completed Durance's quest (but I completed GM's).
     
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    So does MCA have a DS like a nerd or does he use an emulator like a cool dude?
     
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    So, is MCA in the entire podcast or just a section?

    I really don't want to listen to a bunch of strangers talk about TV shows. But if Chris is in it...
     
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    True Detective or some show can "lick my [Chris'] balls" around 24:30 in the red pages podcast :lol:

    EDIT: Also, Siege of Dragonspear talk starts at roughly 42:50.
     
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    It isn't discussed in the game, but it's mentioned in the strategy guide:

    https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/78683-cut-content-durance-and-grieving-mother/

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    NOTE: POTENTIAL SPOILERS ITT. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.
    So I was reading through the CE strategy guide after I finished my playthrough, and I noticed there were a couple of things in Durance and GM's stories that I hadn't encountered, or even seen hinted at. Like, at all. One of them was pretty major, namely the reason that Grieving Mother is called as such (iirc it is implied in-game that she has forgotten herself, and not explored further). It's possible that I just somehow managed to pick the wrong conversation options or otherwise somehow not satisfied the requirements to get these stories, but being as I hadn't seen any hint of them at all, I thought I'd post here.

    The guide has this to say about Durance's character, and his internal conflict:


    Similarly, for the Grieving Mother:

    These characters' stories seem to have substantially changed between the time that the guide was written, and release (so, potentially fairly late in development). Here is a list of the things that I have found to be inconsistent with the story I experienced in my playthrough:
    • In my playthrough, GM never made a comment about Durance, or vice-versa (although it would make sense that Durance would not initially address GM).
    • In-game, Durance does not seem to initially be aware that his colleagues were killed. This is a revelation to him relatively near the end of the game.
    • Grieving Mother is not blamed for the birth of Hollowborn children, but fears that she will be blamed, and her story is based around the steps she took to ensure that she would not be blamed.
    • There are hints of ending the Hollowborn crisis causing "other problems", which was not implied in the final game.
    • The fact that Durance's soul is damaged (and he is therefore undetectable to Magran) in-game would be totally explained by the fact that it was damaged by the GM. In the release version, Durance does not seem to be aware that his soul is damaged. I think it is explained by Durance saying that while the rest of his colleagues were killed by the Godhammer, he survived and his soul was only partially destroyed.
    • There are no mention of GM's children in the game. This is the big one!
    Interestingly, I managed to dig up this interview with Chris Avellone before release. It's quite a long interview, so I'll quote the relevant part:
     
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    What about the smarter people that wash their hands before the toilets?
     
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    Good question for the next podcast with Chris!
     
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  25. Duraframe300 Arcane

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    I'm interested now too.

    That said, Avellone gushes about a lot of things...
     
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