Civilization VI - Now available, so you can sink all your free time into it

Marvellous

 

Breaking civ 6 is like breaking shattered glass.

 

Shattered glass that is still full price after 3 years and 2 large DLCs, DLCs which together cost another 70 bucks, and also has the most concurrent players playing it out of any game in the series.

 

That concurrent numbers has always been misinterpreted.

Civ 3-4 were not released during steam and targeted different audiences so 5-6 will always have bigger numbers.
But if you look at a dedicated forum like civ fanatics and look at the modding and discussions ,you get a different picture.
3-4 are thriving and still getting new mods while 5 is barely alive(minus vox) and 6 is dead.
The only proper 6 total conversion has been put on hold because the author wants to play skyrim and other aaa games.

Simply put,it is not the same audience.

 

The fact that all those people are playing vanilla is even more depressing.

 

BtS incorporated one good feature: corporations, which somewhat alleviate the problem of clicking "end turn" for 100 turns towards the end.

But at this time there were already introducing features which were too hard for their AI: Apostolic Palace, spaceship parts and espionage.
It went downhill from there with Civ 5 and Civ 6.

 

I never play with those win options. Conquest all the way because otherwise, you have a massive advantage over the AI.

 

Anyone have opinions on Civ6 with the expacs? I dropped 25-30hrs on the game at release but left with a bad taste. Civ4 wasn't good at release either, but the foundation was there for stuff like BtS; dunno if the foundation in Civ6 can be salvaged by comparison ... I'm just itching for a civ-like.

 

The expansions vastly improve the game and it did get much better over time. Its biggest issue still remains though and that is the fact that AI cannot handle all the systems they implemented.

 

I think the first expansion pack is not so great, the points collectathon is distracting and "gamey".

 

AI's never been the best for what it's worth. How's Immortal/Deity difficulties? That's what I go for and at that level you're mostly just min-maxing as efficiently as you can while acknowledging AI will speed ahead for a bit regardless of how dumb it is.

Natural disasters?

 

I've seen some of this guy's vids around I don't get the appeal. He just cheats in single player games?

It's like, congratulations, you entered a cheat code and won a single player game!

also he prefers tea to coffee, which is a symptom of mental illness

 

No, the ages. You need to do certain things (from recruiting a great person to killing X units) to collect points necessary to reach a normal or golden age. Some of it happened naturally, but like the heurkas from the base game, it's often gamey or checking boxes.

 

also railroad the game which the most should be a sandbox.

 

This sounds like Colonization's system. It worked pretty well for that game, though it's inherently streamlined for the purpose of one objective (breaking free of liege).

If I get the expacs I'll expound some thoughts here and y'all can apply cuck ratings accordingly.

 

The expansions are 120% jew shit, together, on release, they cost more than the base game. There's no way they are worth the price. The """platinum""" version of the game is 120€, and even at 66% off it's still 75% too expensive.

 

Yeah waiting for 75% off a price reduced platinum version, or 85% off current prices before I would even debate purchasing the game.

 

Civ 6 plus expansions is about the same amount of content as IV had on launch.

It's konsoletarded.

 

$40 bucks? So Civ6 is a service game now? Hello Old World.

 

How about better ai? Oh wait,that would require effort.

How about adding late game mechanics in order to help the late game boredom? Oh wait,that would require actual game design and not just adding stuff randomly.

How about a actual balance patch? Oh wait,that would require the devs to actually play the game competently.

How about releasing the dll for the modders? Oh wait,that would require the devs actually giving a damn about modding.

But here we have a 40 bucks season pass with content that modders have done better and for free.

 

WTF is this? Paradox's Civilization VI?

 

Firaxis is dead. I said it back when Civ5 came out and I was right.

 

More like Civ3.

 

Just ignore this shit and keep playing Civ4.