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CKII is released.

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Trash, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. Grinolf Cipher

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    It that time France already was a centralized state. In CK2 kid ruler would be hated by everyone and would have a crappy stats to effectively deal with his enemies, so better try to avoid such situation.

    I wouldn't count on that solution, since I've seen reported causes, when it still updated the game and broke saves.
     
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  2. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Obviously I wasn't going for efficiency. I played with a understatted lunatic king for 100 years after all.

    You know, after you known the ins and outs of a game going for lulz is actually really fun.
     
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  3. Fafnir Liturgist Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Anyone can recommend mods?
     
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  4. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Dead State Divinity: Original Sin
    Once upon a time lived an envious, ugly duke named Duke Steve.
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    Aside from his ugly mug, he's an okay liege. But one thing that annoys him is the failure of his vassal to pay taxes.
    Mayors are easy to convince. But the Bishops proved to be a constant annoyance. If they liked the Pope more than one iota, they'll divert their cash to the Paypalcy.

    'How do we fix this shit?' He wondered. It's unfair! He already minimized the levy! And even gave middling tax rates!
    Well, since Lothangaria still works under Free Investiture, Steve can appoint the bishop's successor...

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    And ensure the next successor is compliant to him.
    'But fuck, that will take years to wait till the inheritance come to pass!' Steve complained.

    Well. Nobody said he can't accelerate the process...

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    One feast later and everyone is okay with stabbing Zack's ass with knives.

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    Even the consequences of being discovered is unimportant. He's just a bishop.
    He cannot do anything. He can't just pray to God to strike you down. He cannot order an excommunication.
    He's sitting duck. Nobody will ever liked him enough to counter plot against Steve!

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    And so... he dies.

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    And a more... friendlier Bishop takes his place.
    This is especially important during peace times to squeeze out additional coin.
    I'm currently stuck in ironman vassal of Italy. Unable to declare wars with fellow vassals due to Crown Laws - so I build my holdings. City after city and ensure that taxes are paid.

    That's all for tip of the day!
     
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  5. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Everything is shit
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    'This is what happens when your liege is a dumb cunt. Declaring war on Byzantine. Hah!'

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    'I can't expand. And I have not enough money to add a new city! This is terrible!' Duke Steve lamented.
    'I know! I think I have an idea that can restart the economy!'

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    Poor Roberto, always the ambitious one. Perhaps I shall nominate him as my next successor...

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    Oh noes, his wife - she is already dead! This won't do! No no...

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    Aye yayai~ I think this little trollop from Milan would do...

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    Thank you kindly...

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    You may go.

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    Whee...

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    'Oh, poor, poor Roberto' lamented the Duke.
    He must set this right!

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    Roberto is somber, but refused to hate his half brother out of the entire ordeal. Besides, he's the chosen successor.
    What could go wrong?

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    'Another marriage, Steve?'
    'One can never have enough companionship, bro.'

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    As the two exchanged vows, Ol' Steve declared the new construction of a city in Firenze in honor of the couple.

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    'I really love Roberto. I really do. He is my brother.'

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    'A toast to Roberto and Catherine for their everlasting marriage that brings happiness to the people of Firenze!'

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    'Mamamia! Not again!' Roberto cried.
     
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  6. Mortmal Arcane

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    The more you look into it the more exploit you find of course.. But that endless kill the bride loop is even better than papacy gold, much easier as you get many more plotters . They should allow to gather wealth like this only once a few years .
     
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  7. mondblut Arcane

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    Might happen starting with 920 when either Wolgast, Werle, Stettin or Rugen are held by a norse count.
     
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  8. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    If I've understood correctly, you will first need to Reform, and then you'll just have to wait. Don't know if it has any "get ass kicked by this much" clauses to speed up/slow down the creation event. All pagan holy orders need Reform first tho.
     
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  9. mondblut Arcane

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    Jomsvikings are TOG, not SOA, and need no reformation to fire. They have an event to reform themselves upon norse reformation.
     
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  10. Dead Guy Arbiter

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    Can you take female rulers you have imprisoned as concubines (playing norse)? If so, are there limitations beyond the 3 cap? I have a norse chieftess (my vassal) who rebelled against me as my prisoner and I want to punish award her properly.

    Man it's hard to find detailed info on game mechanics for CK2 sometimes. Late to The Old Gods party...
     
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  11. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Yes you can. You can even take Empress as such.
     
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  12. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Doing the whole rape dungeon thing to ladies with titles also gives extra prestige, probably by making all the other dudebros around you fistbump and say "you go dawg".
     
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  13. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Yep. It's pretty much... unsatisfying to me.
     
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  14. mondblut Arcane

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    At one point I had my granddaughter in the dungeon, and couldn't take her. And below 16 is not a choice, alas. Beyond that, the sky is the limit. As a norse republic, I repeatedly loot the lands hosting quick/genius chicks, rape concubinize them when they are captured, then offload them to family members as wives. By now, almost everyone has a trophy wife, and I'm talking over 20 adult male family members, burning through over 2k per year.

    Not sure the rulers can be taken as concubines. Still have to catch an enemy one, but some countess of mine caught plotting had no option to be taken.
     
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  15. Dead Guy Arbiter

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    Hmm, I couldn't find the option to make this countess a concubine. Knowing CK2 it's not always apparent which diplomacy or intrigue tab or what have you you're supposed to do it from. When I'm in dip with her I can only take her courtiers as concubines, and there was no option in intrigue either. I don't think there was an option to take a concubine from my own courtiers but maybe that's where it is? She was adult, I didn't have 3 already. Where is buttan?
     
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  16. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  17. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    I still don't understand how the game is 'unplayable' - I know there were extreme cases like the Khazars having to resort to desperate measures just to survive their Old Gods start.
    But I never ran into situation where I threw my hands up and call bullshit on a regular revolt stack.
     
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  18. IDtenT Contact me for a good time Patron

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    You're talking to average manatee...
     
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  19. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-troops-function-based-on-pre-2.0-levy-values
    http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...d-be-a-threshold-for-number-of-vulture-troops.

    Yeah, rebels spawning with 5x as many troops as the target can raise is totally intended.

    The AI was completely unable to cope with the ridiculous event troop spam.

    The other important fix is that the AI is a lot less suicidal about attacking stronger forces. Dunno how the heck they managed to screw up military AI like that in the last patch.

    Ohh fuck off.
     
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  20. Kattze Andhaira

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    They're adding an anti-king. :incline:
     
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  21. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    sweet. I don't have to pretend that I'm going for stupid elective law bullshit.
     
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  22. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Is the Jewish building Shekel Vault?
     
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  23. Spectacle Arcane Patron

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    You can't make concubines of title holders. It is the ultimate way to deal with a rebellious countess though. Put her in the dungeon, strip her of titles and then strip her of clothes as well. :smug:
     
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  24. Kattze Andhaira

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    Will the Jewish retinue be bankers?
     
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  25. curry Arcane

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    What exaclty is the Anti-King supposed to be? An usurper?
     
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