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CKII is released.

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Trash, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. Turisas Arch Devil Patron

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    Lazy pasta:

    • Nomadic rule: contrary to tribal governments, nomads do not have permanent settlements. Nomad hordes simply have a total population, which grows relative to how many empty holding slots exist in their provinces (steppe provinces are best, but some other terrain types are also acceptable). A large fraction of the total population counts as Manpower, which is used to raise regiments (similar to retinues).[5]
    • Clan politics: with mostly empty holdings, nomads tend to have a lot fewer normal vassals than other realms. This is compensated by a variable number of member Clans, that fight for dominance. Mechanics include splitting/absorbing clans that get too large/small, and proclaiming feuds and blood oaths.[6]
    • Nomad succession: nomads no longer use ultimogeniture, but the most prestigious son or brother inherits. To get control over the heir, a nomad ruler can send his most promising sons to become mercenaries.
    • Dynamic mercenaries: mercenary bands can now form dynamically, becoming available for hire by rulers in the general region. As they earn money, the size of their regiment increase.
    • Raiding adventurers: should a horde lose its last province, the tribe will still exist, and may use its remaining armies to conquer another land in which to settle. Adventurers will use the money they gain from raiding to recruit more troops, and when they have grown to a certain level, they will try to become landed.
    • Silk road: rulers of predefined provinces along the road can build trade posts on land, which can be upgraded to make the Silk Road worth even more. However if a war breaks out and a part of the trade route is caught in the conflict, the trade will be cut from that province and onwards for that branch. The trade will instead go through any other branch and result in them receiving more of the trade than they normally would.[7]
    • Tributaries: new diplomatic relationship for nomad states forces defeated enemies to keep the Khan’s coffers filled. Tributaries pay a monthly tax to their suzerain and cannot refuse the suzerain's call to wars.[8]
    • Larger map: the Central Asian plains are expanded, with 27 new provinces in 8 new duchies and 2 kingdoms, and associated cultures (Uyghur, Khitan, Sogdian and Tocharian) and character history. The size of the base map remains unchanged, as the added counties were previously wasteland.[9]
     
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  2. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    The nomad mechanics are going to be a modder goldmine. You can bet your ass Raiding Adventurer is going to be adapted for a lot wider use with mods too.

    Also, the Warhammer Fantasy mod is in very good shape already, aside from unpolished magic system (namely, it's so super-rare and hard to get that it's not a major factor without activating it with cheats for characters outside of the select few official characters who have it enabled) and occasional crashes with pseudo-mysterious causes it's already a fuckload of fun and provides some really alternative gameplay styles. Ie, vampires are sort of like usual CK2 on 'roids due to the whole immortality thing, where forced Turkish succession means your primary goal is to stay alive no matter what because it'll be total fucking chaos when you die and EVERYONE in your bloodline gets strong claims on everything you had. Orcs appear to be super-fun as well, and should be even moreso once Nomad horde mechanics are updated in (inevitable, those are just perfect for Greenskins).

    https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/mod-warhammer-geheimnisnacht.843657/
     
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  3. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Interestingly, they included the obligatory hotfix in today's patch (releasing 2.4.1 instead of 2.4.0), but nonetheless kept with the tradition of serious bugs on release which require another hotfix.
     
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  4. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Also, current version of Geheimnisnacht works without additional issues on beta 236.
     
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  5. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I'll stay on 2.3.6 for the foreseeable future. Though luckily you can have several CK2 installations with different patch levels simultaneously.
     
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  6. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    I decided to stick with 2.3.6 for now just because of Geheimnisnacht, it's like playing CK2 fresh and brand new again. I'll check out Pretty Pretty Horsies once it updates to use its new additions.
     
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  7. Shadenuat Arcane

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    It's very hard to finish even one game when updates come faster than you finish them and crash all your saves, I gotta say
     
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  8. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    I lose interest mostly out of boredom when the campaign's self-appointed objectives have been fulfilled.
     
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  9. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Uninstall.exe solves everything for me.
     
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  10. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I'm a slow player (rarely over speed 2-3), so yes, that happens to me a lot. But at least Paradox uses the Steam beta program for a while now to allow the players to roll back the mandatory patches.

    As for Geheimnisnacht, don't use the workshop version and only update at will.
     
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  11. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Welp, Geheimnisnacht is now version 7.0 and uses 2.4.1. According to modders themselves, this is still a rough version. Something about millions of orcs.
     
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  12. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I'll be keen for this expansion but as usual looks like Horse Lords has followed the Paradox CK2 expansion tradition of being incredibly buggy and overpowering whatever its focused upon.
     
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  13. Andnjord Arcane

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    Well...
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    It would seem the Dwarfs have learned how to breed.
     
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  14. Andnjord Arcane

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    By the way

    Wub-wub in my Crusader Kings? What is this heresy?!?:fight:
     
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  15. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Those are Greenskin flags for Karak Kadrin and Karak Hafak.
     
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  16. Andnjord Arcane

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    Oh, I haven't played the mod for very long, there I go showing my lack of knowledge. Well then, millions of orcs indeed!
     
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  17. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    They figured out the cause just now, it was because of an obsolete version of a command, and they explained how a player can manually fix it. I myself will still wait for the next version since I'm in no hurry to abandon my two ongoing campaigns with Orcs and Vampires.

    EDIT: As for music, I modded Geheimnisnacht to use Harkonnen soundtrack from Emperor: Battle for Dune in place of CK2 music. It just seems to fit much better for something as 80's and early 90's as Warhammer.
     
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  18. Whisky The Solution

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    So, I got this. All of a sudden I noticed I have a whole bunch of Unit Packs in my DLC list. Did Paradox give me free shit, or did I miss something?
     
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  19. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Crashy as fuck.
     
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  20. Turisas Arch Devil Patron

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    Download more RAM.
     
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  21. Sranchammer Arcane

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    Will Paradox ever ditch this 3d dog
     
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  22. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    another dlc ?
     
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  23. triari Novice

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    question for you guys: suppose i'm a king, with a daughter, with a claim on an empire. if i press and win, what happens? it seems the tooltip cannot be correct, that a member of your dynasty becomes your vassal. i'm on ironman or else i would try myself.
     
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  24. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    That's correct, you'll still need to be higher ranked than your vassals. Kings do not bow to kings, and emperors do not bow to anyone.

    Of course if can make sure that she's your heir you can get the empire eventually, otherwise you'll just have a long term ally.
     
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