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CKII is released.

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Trash, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. AwesomeButton Cut a deal with the authorities Patron

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    Big sale right now. Which DLCs would you recommend? I got CKII gifted to me by Paradox, as a compensation for my stupidity to preorder EUIV :) and since then I have not bought any DLCs for CKII.

    I have played and enjoyed a lot of torrented CKII+DLCs though.
     
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  2. Ludovic Learned

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    The Holy Prepuce was an actual thing, mostly in areas that had penis cults in pagan times. From what I remember, there were actually several churches in the low countries claiming to have THE Holy Prepuce, but not 100% on that.

    What should be in the game, though, is VÖLSEN, which was a scandinavian (mostly Swedish) horse penis cult, mentioned in Saxo Grammaticus and the so-called "Völsetåten" (a poem of some kind, I think).
     
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  3. Turisas Arch Devil Patron

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    Gonna start a pagan game tonight, guess we'll see. Hoping they haven't put all the goodies into the big religions - not sure what the point of holy relics is when you aren't eligible (for the activation conditions) to get gainz from them. Doubt Odin would be very impressed if you gave him a sacrifice of some jew's foreskin.

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  4. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Checking the files, Norse appear to have 3 artifacts while other pagans have 1 each. Rest of the religions look to have 5+ as a minimum. Of course there's tons of artifacts that are not religion specific.
     
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  5. Turisas Arch Devil Patron

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    Sunset Invasion and Conclave. And Viking Metal.
     
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    Nah, I hated the SI for being so ahistorical, and I like choosing my own medieval tracks to listen to while I play.
     
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  7. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    In the end you gotta get them all ;)
    The usual suspects are the Byzantines expansion for retinues, Old Gods if you want to play pagans and / or have an earlier start date.
     
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    I'll be happy as long as the Zunist artifact entails finding your sun and becoming grossly incandescent.
     
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    I was worried we'd lose the +2 Axe which was previously an event thing.
     
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    Way to ruin it. I have looked at the files and they have several magical weapons whith colored glow and stupid shit like that.

    Also no historical swords in the files.
     
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    And people pay money for this and then enjoy it...
     
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    Well you know how it is on the Codex, you gotta play at least seven times before you can be sure...
     
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  13. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    With the new settings feature, you can selectively disable many annoyances without disabling the respective DLC, e.g. supernatural stuff (which has been in game long before the current expansion) and satanists. Not the items though.

    For Geheimnisnacht, the new mechanics should be great though.
     
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  14. Multiple Sarcasm Arcane

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    How dare they. :argh:
     
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    Supernatural stuff is only really present since the last DLC (immortality and that bullshit), before that only clearly supernatural events I remember are those that happen if your ruler is also a lunatic. But since they introduced those settings they went full force on the supernatural fantasy. If your remove satanist stuff and supernatural hermetic events, how much is even left from the latest DLC? The DLC before this one also leaves me confused - remove immortals and werewolves and you are left with more detailed diseases, money-sink hospitals and physicians that the AI either can't use (only AI dukes or above can hire one, and even dukes rarely do it) or uses it very, very badly (physician converts kings / emperor to jew / muslim level bullshit). Yet people somehow love that stuff, go figure. I think Paradox is scraping the bottom of the DLC barrel here.
     
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    Oh definately, not only does the cult/society thing have a lot of possibilities in Warhammer World (most obviously in The Empire with the colleges of magic, Chaos cults, witch-hunters, knightly orders, etc), even just for having a better Chaos cultist mechanical base. The inventory system should also greatly simplify the current trait overload problem that tends to develop if you play as an immortal or super-long-lived race which can do magic.

    Moreover, I *think* the new patch notes includes a number of fixes that the GNacht team has mentioned having been waiting for because Pdox promised the fixes, since their mod had issues with certain bugs inherent to the base game itself like pathfinding crashes.
     
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  17. IDtenT Contact me for a good time Patron

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    Very disappointed in the DLC part of the DLC. Adds a little bit of flavour and nothing else. I guess they don't want to tweak mechanics anymore. That was the best part of a new DLC, as you're basically playing a different game.

    Otherwise the quality of life stuff in the patch is pretty impressive.
     
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  18. Ludovic Learned

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    Not sure that the supernatural disable works 100%. In my brief game as the pagan chief of Moravia, barely 15 minutes had passed before I got recruited into some Chernobog society, a demon had mauled some random courtier and a guy I sacrificed to the gods maimed me about a week later. I can accept the last one as a bug rather than a zombie event, the Chernobog thing isn't supernatural per se, but a DEMON? I have a feeling a lot of the M&M event chains contain supernatural elements, but cannot be disabled without disabling those societies completely.
     
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  19. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    The "Join Court" filter makes getting good council members a bit too easy. A generation or two in and its basically impossible not to have 20+ stat characters everywhere willing to join you. Rest of the patch is gud.

    Secret societies seem to be a big letdown according to paradox forums. Devil stuff is just flat out cheating while the other societies are free OP stat boosts. I'm guessing most of the time went into the society system itself for modders to use rather than actually fleshing out good stuff for the base game. Also apparently lots of artifacts end up stacking too well such that your rulers will get 30+ in their primary stats.
     
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  20. Turisas Arch Devil Patron

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    Someone on pdx forums suggested they had to rush it out, which'd make sense given how sparse (monk orders) or non-existent (hermetic alchemy) some of the content in M&M is right now - Paradox has a busy spring schedule for releases and they likely wanted to focus on the larger Stellaris expansion that's coming soonish. This DLC does have potential but like TOG originally where the norse pagans got all the good shit, this time it's the satanic cults which have gotten all the love.
     
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    I'm still waiting for another good sale for the "DLC Collection" package that includes all DLC released prior to "Charlemagne" before jumping into the recent overpriced stuff. Last good one was a Humble Bundle ages ago (14.5 euros) but I missed it, most recent sales are all at 30-35 and above.

    I need those portrait packs, god dammit.
     
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    The Germanic portraits alone are worth the price of Monks and Mystics.

    There seems to be a bug with weapon and goldsmiths. Every couple of months I get a message that "XY the Weaponsmith" has joined my court and they are all dead on arrival.

    The monastic orders are just a money sink - every once in a while you have to donate 100 gold for little gain.

    Items are nice but not cheap (2500 for the best sword, but it's a permanent stat boost for all the following generations).
     
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  23. Turisas Arch Devil Patron

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    ^ Yeah I had 3 DOA's in a row, and then finally one that made it - the first three were all married and their wives kicked the bucket as well while the survivor was not, but I don't see how that could be relevant to it.

    And they still didn't fix the short reign / long reign going poof once you load a save, so vassals are kinda shitty to handle when you're a lunatic devil worshipper.

    Until you spend some dark powah and make them your mindless puppets. :smug:
     
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    Due to the one society limit, colleges and anything else that should be corruptible probably won't have a society.
     
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  25. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Hah, and people used to joke that Paradox would make a world of darkness CK2 DLC.
     
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