Cold Fusion: A Steampunk Inspired Post Apocalyptic RPG

Yes. I'd like any setting that isn't the stuff we're used to now.

 

I wish someone would make a western/neutral, normally proportioned graphic sprites + proppa grid combat alternative to rpgmaker already.

Even by indie JRPG standards these are not good graphics at all. Are the fans of this low rent snes style some kind of outlier group even further removed from people who can actually play games that aren't 3D? As long as it looks japanese it is superior? I bet they think final fantasy tactics advance is an elite game.

 

If I ever come to Sweden, I fucking kill you OP for not mentioning that this is faggot anime shit in the title.

 

It is called Forgotten Realms: Unlimited Adventures and is superior in every possible way, except for accessibility, which is arguably superior too because it ensues a set of higher quality user made content as much as the Internet was superior back when people needed to know at least html to add content to it. Hacks can't muster the kind of effort to create something in FRUA or read its manual, but the same does not apply to JRPG Maker, of course.

And there is FIFE too, but it still is a long way to go.

 

I feel like April Fools Day came late this year...

 

20 Eyes, leaving ^_^ aside, are you seriously comparing RPGMaker with Chrono Trigger?

Also the point of gfx like the shown in the second example is the same why people are more bothered with games with shitty art direction and graphics than with roguelikes. They allow you to fill the gaps with your imagination and sometimes even complement it with text based descriptions far richer than what DX 11 IMMERSHUN would provide.

 

Ignoring the fact they ask 15k$ dollars for this turd, 20eyes? Fifteen thousand dollars for a RPGmaker game?

 

Yeah, for that one I'm kinda waiting on the fan remake and stuffies

 

It's just a joke, bro. I have never, and probably would never, paid anything for an RPGmaker game. But I do think it's amusing that if they went for 5K, they'd probably have hit their goal.

I'm too lazy to dig any up, but I'm sure Chrono Trigger has gotten some "Jap Shit!!!" posts from the Codex. And you don't have to tell me about games with minimal graphics, I like Dwarf Fortress.

But besides that, it was just a joke. Tough crowd tonight...

 

Mission accomplished then!

 

Am I the only one who thinks steampunk is pretty boring?

 

Have you guys ever tried RPGMaker? the biggest problem I encountered with it is the character progression attributes were hardcoded, so you can't add more character skills. I made some none anime human sprites and some cyberpunk tile assets. Honestly, prototyping a game using RPGMaker is a very good idea. The Event system is pretty complex an can facilitate sophisticated C&C. The biggest problem is the combat system.

 

I'll buy it if I can throw the dog on the cactus then bash the head of my character with the log.

 

Arcanum is about as far as steampunk should be taken and about as well as you can expect it to turn out. Most steampunk I've seen is retarded LARP shit with modern attitudes (feminism, racial equality) but COGS AND VICTORIAN OUTFITS.

I even hit some of the asswipes up about the multicultural weirdness (was some article about it) and they went, "guess steampunk isn't for you 'cuse the past was a pretty multicultural place"

 

Can't find it on google, but was some facebook page's link.

http://www.winterdream.org/steampunk/index.php?content=essays/dontfailson.html is a pretty good example of the typical attitudes I've found from steampunk enthusiasts

Basically the genre seems to attract a massive amount of "raging against the white, male, heterosexual patriarchy" types. The other 50% seem to be:



I've grown to hate the whole term "steampunk" due to the fact that female fans seem to be Jane Fonda knockoffs while the males seem to be neckbeard permavirgins. I can't really see it ever being done better than Arcanum, which kept things relatively plausible and subdued (no retarded massive cogs) and didn't take a modern PC view of society as the time. Sure the orcs are oppressed and virtually enslaved for cheap labour, but they're dumb and violent orcs (who if emancipated basically go on a massive looting and rioting spree)! Same for the gnomes who serve as a parallel for Jews (and if you go down a certain quest path you will certainly come to hate and despise..).

The game was good because it got you into the mindset of a Victorian rather than going "lol look how racist and sexist and evil they were back then!! Aren't you happy you live in more enlightened times???".

 

And excluding consolefag wapanese crap?

 

But they talk about the exact subjects Arcanum dealt with, I don't see the problem? Sure Arcanum presented the stuff well, but where does that write-up urge you to be overtly preachy about whatever message you want to discuss with your work? (didn't bother to read all of that quote)

 

They tend to do it from a very modern, PC, middle class sociology student perspective. Go-get-em, every equal to the boys heroines and no racism (and if it is there it's only a few obviously evil characters). Arcanum took the step of making their racism and prejudices understandable in what served both as to immerse you more into the world (orcs are too violent and dumb and savage to be equal citizens and if you help them become free they pretty much turn Tarant into Cleve's description of the L.A Riots) and as an interesting play on your standard D&D, high fantasy world that had undergone an industrial revolution.

 

you can get around those limitations by using custom maps for combat and character screens and completely ignoring the default systems. either way, newer versions don't have that problem as you can alter everything you want with the scripting language, including the graphical output. there's even a 3d dungeon blobber script some japanese guy wrote for vx.

 

The quoted text specifically urged one to NOT be colorblind, that doesn't mean encouraging No Racism by any means to me.

And orcs are a tricky situation in Arcanum, while they are stupid it's hard to say if they're violent by nature. Any more than LA blacks are, pointing out that they go on a rampage after being scorned and treated as filth for their whole lives by humans, if they're offered the chance for a payback, why not go for it? It's also easy to see humans and gnomes as the worst cretins in the game if you want to look at it that way, what with destroying teh natures, fighting expansionist wars and enslaving orcs etc.
But none of this stuff is underlined too much, so whatever social commentary Troika wanted to give is multi-dimensional and not preachy.

 

I thought that much of what we heard about orcs was simply human propaganda meant to justify their enslavement.